Naruto Manga Chapter 512

ddt

i guess ur right too rikudusage there r lots of things we cant explain rite now but in my opinion if its not madara then i have no idea who it can be cuz i dont think its danzo obito at all it could be his bro since he did grow up wit madara so he would know about the past. but on to another subject which i find very interesting i was looking at the pic of madara vs the 1st hokage when u see this epic battle what do u see? i was looking closely and when i look around the 1st i saw 7 swords rite away my head was like 7 swords? where did i hear that from then i remembered 7 swordsmen of the hidden mist so i was thinking if madara was using those swords against the first maybe he was the one to give it to the 7 swordmens i mean he did mind control the mizukage making him basically the mizukage and one of the swords does look like zabuzas sword but i could be wrong i mean samehada isnt there but i would like to hear ur comments on this what do u guys think?

ddt

u can search up the picture on google type in madara uchiha vs hashirama senju and look in images u will see a pic with madara by the moon the ninetails and the 1st

Saiyan Nike

hey…mathew…rikudusage…how about madara being Uchiha kagami….i mean watch his pic….in google….u’l also get a thought of ..him being madara coz…..see….he’s among the elder’s of konoha…so…he might..be knowing about naruto’s birth….and in the pic he has MS also….and it is possible for him to live this long coz the other elder’s are also alive..till now in the series….and…he’s predicted to be uchiha shisui’s father ..in some blogs i read that and also his picture resembles….uchiha shisui…..Im Thinking he might be tobi coz …. he’s the only..one we hav’nt discussed so far… ….

Solid_snake13

i agreed with you man i don,t have clues:d you said all i think about ..and want to say and bisides why would kishimoto put flashback about danzo including.. uchiha kagami ..and it can be that …there is many theories about tobi being madara or obito or shisui uchiha…but what if there is link between ..it,s true i, with the fact that he is not the actual madar we know… but if he is not.. it can be that there is strong link.. between kagami shisui..and even obito.. what if they were relatives to each other somehow… remember in naruto,s world everything is possible
Solid_snake13

i agree with you.. it can be that tobi is uchiha kagami.. why would kishimoto put flashback on danzo including uchiha kagami… i don,t think tobi is madara there is many theories about obito and shisui and kagami. about (hair ..and many things-.. but what if there is link between shisui kagami and even obito somehow… remeber evrything in anruto world imspossible
- Saiyan Nike
  
  yeah..solid..snake…13….but….we still cannot jump to the conclusion….coz ..he could be….some one..who is not yet revealed or was shown..for a small moment…in the manga…although….i would’nt want to predict…coz i want to enjoy…that moment when madara is revealed….but what to do…our minds are so filled up that we cant stop predicting ……:D
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Hmmm thats a good theory Saiyan Nike … But.. If you had alittle more details to back it up thoery ya know. The only reason I would say that its unlikely is because if Kagami was in fact Madara wouldnt anyone including the 2nd hokage especially point it out??? As for him in general being Tobi now thats a different story because anything is really possible.. But we keep throwing out all these Uchiha names when quite possibly Tobi might not be an Uchiha after all. Theirs alot of possiblites out their, but reguardless I’m sure something everyone can agree on is that we all cant wait till its finally revealed…
However I did stumble on a little interview between Shonen Jump and Masashi Kishimoto that stated the following statement:

SJ: There’s many rumours regarding Madara being the absolute final villain. Is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain is yet to be seen and I can’t let that information out just yet. But he will play a big part as a villain, that’s for sure.
rikudusage

well it is a good theory… if u mean tobi could be uchiha kagami… lets see … uchiha kagami was only shown once in the manga when danzo remebers his past… but thats it … there’s no other info on him… but if it is true that he was shisui’s father then it is possible for him to use the teleportation jutsu like shisui…. i dont think shisui awakened his makengyou sharingan and it has not been told anyhwere in the series as well… may be its a different jutsu that he mastered… so it is likely that his father could use it too… and being an uchiha he should well know about the uchiha’s secret… but as matthew said there are no details on him… anything is possible
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Well I thought about it and it might in fact be really possible that Tobi could be Kagami Uchiha. Here’s reasons that I came up with he would fit the age def, he has an unknown death, and it would make sense of where the name Tobi came from after all he was on the same squad as Danzo, the 2nd Hokage named Team Tobirama….(Tobi)rama…. Hmmm clue perhaps????

Edwardsclamann

OKAY U GUYS…I WAS ON YOUTUBE THE OTHER DAY AND I WAS WATCHING A INTERVIEW WITH KISHIMOTO..SHOWEN JUMP ASKED HIM WHO IT TOBI” ALL KISHIMOTO SAID WAS THAT HE IS A POWERFUL UCHIHA”…..THAT GAVE ME SOME SPECTICAL” HE NEVER SAID ITS MADARA” SO THAT MEANS THERE’S ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER TWIST”….BUT ALL THESE PEOPLE SAYING ITS DANZOU IT IS NOT” HE’S DEAD!!!!!!!!” ITS A UTCHIHA IT CAN EITHER BE ” A UTCHIHA THAT HAS BEEN SEEN” OR 1 THAT HAS NOT BEEN REVEALED YET”
WHOEVER IT IS ” ALL I KNOE IS THAT IS OING TO HAVE ALL OUR FACE’S DROPING”.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Edwardsclamann, I saw the interview myself and would have to agree on your statement that when the time comes when Tobi is finally revealed it will have all our faces dropping, and I also saw another interview involving Shonen Jump and Masashi Kishimoto that also stated the following statement:

SJ: There’s many rumours regarding Madara being the absolute final villain. Is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain is yet to be seen and I can’t let that information out just yet. But he will play a big part as a villain, that’s for sure.
- Youallfools
  
  so basicly the interview didnt tell u anything about anything…
  he obviously cant say madara is the absolte vilain cuz that would kill the serie ( thats obvious as shit smells)
  and of course he wont say tobi is madara cause its either one of madara’s bitch who he left alive when killing all other uchias or madara himself but he wants to keep evryone guessing
  bottom line he would be a good politician doesnt say anything about anything but get all you over analitic freaks worked up
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew
    
    Ummm yea pretty much…. The guys full of suspense what can I say lol

rikudusage

ok like matthew said.. i went back to episode 136 and it does make some sense… well i copied down what itachi said to sasuke when sasuke says madara should be dead..
itachi-”…. reality could be illusion. all human beings live with wrong assumptions. Its only your assumption that Madara is dead. In exactly the same way you once assumed that I was your kind older brother.”
well.. the last two sentences really buzzed my mind. Itachi WAS a kind older brother as it was revealed later in the series… so Sasuke’s “assumption” that itachi was his kind older brother is not wrong… so that makes the other sentence sasuke’s assumption that madara is dead is not wrong either..
may be we are overlooking these lines but itachi.. as a man he was.. wouldn’t say anything without a reason… everything he did and said.. had some meaning… may be he knew zetsu was around so he was trying to give a secret message to sasuke about madara/tobi… well we can only do is …make “assumptions”

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

See rikudusage I thought the same thing about what Itachi was saying and it twisted me up when he said: “reality could be illusion” “all human beings live with wrong assumptions”. Which also brings up everything about Itachi, exactly what you said-
rikudusage: “Itachi WAS a kind older brother as it was revealed later in the series… so Sasuke’s “assumption” that itachi was his kind older brother is not wrong”
Now to add to that statement, Itachi was extremly smart def on the same level as Shikamaru, everything he did was planned well in advanced. For him to make that statement and tell Sasuke about Madara, idk to me somethings doesn’t match up at all. When Tobi made the statement about Itachi not knowing “everything” about him, I really think he was terribly wrong. I think Itachi knew alot more than Tobi wanted him too know. With that being said, I strongly beleive that Itachi made a huge chess move and im not just refering about him implanting the amaterasu…..
But now that he’s been brought back to the land of the living thanks to Kabuto, what future does this leave for Tobi now?? But more importantly his younger brother Sasuke??
http://www.facebook.com/people/Shannon-Shelton/1490945234 Shannon Shelton

We all are making the “assumption’ that the masked character with the sharingun is Madara. Oh sure he says he is Madara, and has some convincing abilities, but anyone with a sharingun at that level could do some crazy stuff. So the question really is, is that Madara? If so how did he survive so long? Perhaps by living in that strange world he warps to with his eye? Maybe if he shuts down all other bodily functions he can phase and become intangible for lengthy periods of time, which would keep him in a “time bubble” where he doesnt age, maybe he isn’t even a Uchiha family member, after all kakashi has the sharingun by it being transplanted, perhaps someone else has done the same, and another question arises since Kabuto absorbed Orochimaru’s dead body he seems to have alot of his abilities, including the one to raise the dead, so who did he raise in the coffin which made “Madara” nervous…..
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew
  
  Well S.S, true we all are making “assumptions” especially on the matter on who is “Tobi”. But that’s what makes this series awesome, people like us that keeps putting thoughts and ideas out there so that people can take it and either go along, add, or disagree with it completely. As to answer your one question about who’s in the coffin…. Who knows, we’re all trying to figure out who Tobi is first, so ill list a few Tobi suspects along with coffin possibilities:
  
  (Tobi)- Madara / (Coffin)- Izuna
  (Tobi)- Izuna / (Coffin)- Madara
  (Tobi)-Obito / (Coffin)-Madara
  (Tobi)-Danzo / (Coffin)-Madara
  (Tobi)-Kagami / (Coffin)-Madara
  (Tobi)-Fugaku / (Coffin)-Madara (or) his wife Mikoto
  (Tobi)-Shisui / (Coffin)-Madara
  or my personal opinion-
  (Tobi) The Eldest son of the Sage of the Six Paths / (Coffin)- His younger brother or the Sage himself
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Hey rikudusage you got yourself an email? if so here’s mine cromag92@yahoo.com shoot me a message gotta ask you something…..
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Hey rikudusage hit up my email sometime i gotta question to ask ya im at cromag92 @ yahoo . com

romo uzumaki

so wat is the 1 doing

Cbatchingis

where’s this week’s manga???

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ninjaboy-/100001053534457 Ninjaboy ˚͜˚

but i have a doubt about the uzumaki clan is there any connection between them and the sage of 6 paths

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Probably right…
PurplePie

well they are blood relatives with senju, so somewhere far out yes they are somewhat related. Uou can read that in the chapter were kushina tells about her past

http://www.facebook.com/people/Ninjaboy-/100001053534457 Ninjaboy ˚͜˚

or the uzumaki clan and uchia clan are brotheren clans

akatsuki

you know what, i think tobi can be madara or kagami,cause they are the ones most being metioned around now but ,my hypothesis is that tobi is madara and he stole obito,kagami and shisui’s body?how about him combining the together and then sealing it in his body?i say the main is madara because if not, hoe would he have a part or senju harishimaya?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Well not saying that you are wrong but to answer your one question, Tobi could have gotten the 1st Hokages DNA same way Orochimaru or Danzo did. Or he could have some how gotten it from Kakuzu, remember he told Kakashi that he himself went toe to toe with the first himself….

Reason

Why does everyone think Tobi isn’t Madara all of a sudden? Anythings possible, but I doubt everything he’s said over the past year about himself is a lie. No one knows how he’s been alive for so long, but heres my theory. The person that Kabuto revealed in the coffin was actually Madara. Look at manga 490 very carefully… Madara-”You madman, how did you do this?” Kabuto-”Oh you know how….. Don’t worry I havent told a soul” Madara tries to act like he doesn’t know how Kabuto could have revived whoever that was, and Kabuto says you know how, but don’t worry I haven’t told anyone. Madara is actually dead, but somehow still inhabits the living world.

Reason

Also, look at chapter 503 page 4. Madara’s left arm is dripping off… he obviously isnt completely human, it’s like he’s really dead and his body isn’t completely real. Probably how he can detach and reattach body parts so effortlessly
Alrokako

madara has so many fuckin secrets i wouldnt reccomend to guess on it but if i had to guess id say you prob right he has to be doing some type of dead walking amongst the living shit it gets pretty annoying all these mysteries like naruto is still hiding something that he seen in his image against sasuke that hes not tellin but it looks like its bothering him
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

You know Reason, Im one of those kinds of people that likes to look outside the box. If you scroll thru all my comments on this page you’ll see alot of random comments and theories, some which are crazy enough to might actually be true. For the longest time I thought Tobi was everyone but Madara, but however after recent discoveries I think its finally writen in stone that Tobi is Madara. One way or another. Masashi Kishimoto the creator made this comment in his most recent interview with Shonen Jump: “Well, I cant give the most obvious answer away haha, but all I will say is that Tobi is a very powerful Uchiha”. He also made the following statement after another question he was asked: “Madara being the final villain is yet to be seen and I can’t let that information out just yet, but he will play a big part as a villain, that’s for sure”. If you also look at the recent gameplay videos of the new Naruto ultimate storm 2 you will see Tobi fighting, however his name above the health meter is in fact Madara. So I’m going to finally admit it that Tobi is Madara, I mean he knows alot about the history in and out of the Uchiha clan, which means he must have somehow been behind the scenes all this time after his battle with the First Hokage. As for him being still alive I think he switches bodies just like Orochimaru did but I think he was the first to discover this technique, and than later on met up with Orchimaru and taught it to him, but not without a price im sure. So if it is true I strongly believe that he no longer possess his mangekyou sharingan anymore. Hence why we haven’t seen it and im sure if he had it we would have seen him use it on konan while he was getting owned. I think thats why he’s been protecting that right eye of his and why he has all those sharingan in his lab. Each one must share their own ability and they are all for him to use hence why he wanted Danzo’s eye so badly. Or another theory is that he is saving them for army of Zetsu clones. As it goes for Madara’s body i really think its either a body from the Senju, Uchiha or Uzumaki clan. Or it might even be an experimental body possibly from Zetsu’s clones. Let me know what you guys think on this theory??
- rikudusage
  
  I’ll have to agree with matthew… i’d been guessing and predicting different characters who might have been tobi…but kisimoto’s interview does hint that tobi could be madara after all… as matthew said he might be switching bodies….. but in a sense that he is like a living dead…. not totally alive not totally dead…. he might be using dead bodies like nagato…or like sasori…. I mean madara might some how can transfer his chakra in dead bodies… remember tobi said ” i’m merely a shell of my former self”…. and kabuto refered sasuke as ” a young fragile, LIVING uchiha.”… and tobi said something about being complete…… and his chakra being the reason for his long life…. well that could be the reason for him to hide his face… cuz its not his body… its not his face….. so if his face is revealed then his secret is revealed…. and becuz of it he cant use his mangekyou sharingan…. and may be he has preserved the bodies of all the uchihas from the uchiha massacre….zetsu might have some contribution in that… i think that was the deal he made with itachi for helping him wipe out the clan… well we cant be so sure about it too…. cuz kisimoto said he (madara) will play a big part as a villain not the final villain… which does hint in either ways… the moment he will reveal it he’ll have our eyes popping out…. and it will be an epic episode… i wonder how long will it take
  - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew
    
    Yea rikudusage, I think its time to throw in the towel with the whole Tobi/Madara theory…. Well for now!! lol. But yea once I saw those comments from “the man” himself I was like ….. “Shit”….. Well this would kinda make sense with what Itachi told Sasuke now: “Reality could be an illusion”, “All human beings live with wrong assumptions”. Since Madara is “alive” according to Itachi maybe his statement meant that even tho he’s alive he’s not really alive. Why would he say the words human beings, instead of just saying the word everybody?? And when he talks about reality could be an illusion, he must be refering about the Yin and Yang / Izanagi, creating life from nothing, being able to turn illusion into reality or reality into illusion. Who knows maybe Madara used this ability to create life on himself or maybe Zetsu represents the Yin and Yang of life creation hence why he’s black and white….

PurplePie

No idea why it havent been posted yet, but the 513 is out. you’ll be able to watch it on youtube, just find acc21A3 channel HF

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Yea I read it, It was pretty funny with Naruto and his secret misson lol. Kabuto’s new snake creation is badass!!!
- PurplePie
  
  Contains ————->SPOILER<———-
  (dont look if you havent read the chapter yet)
  
  An okay chapter, not suberb but okay with a twist of fun
  What I found more intressting in this one, was that kabuto was able to restore deidara's own free will, or sort of. Hence wondering if he'll be so kind to lets say for instant, itachi ^^

naruto_fan

i think madaras body are zetsu’s clones…thats why he made many zetsu clones to use it as his body…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J545BIMNW34GCYNNM3UINSOZBU Matthew

Quite Possible…

MyNameIsMichael

if you want to see chapter 513 go at manga section

Liltim305

can anyone stop naruto now that he gained control over the nine tails

Liltim305

can naruto fuse sage mode with 9 tails would he be defintly unstoppable

muzicz

Generally, to assume is to make and ass out of u and me.

IluvGaara

Tichukage:i’ll go
Gaara: are you sure?
Tishukage: dont worry kazakage i’m onoki the great fence sitter….(CRACK) AHHHH!!!
Gaara: i’ll think i’ll go if i ride on my sand i’ll get there faster
Tishukage: fool! i said i’ll go and i’ll go because i’m onoki the great…(CRACK) AHHHH!!!
lol! it was sooo funny!

Mprime

this website is so broken with its manga. i went to read 548 and it took me to the very first episode of naruto and half the links don’t even work