Naruto Manga Chapter 526

naruto is even stronger now than he was when he fought pain and jirayia cant use sage mode without the frogs, they said naruto had surpassed jirayia so i think naruto could win, im not saying it would be easy also jiraiya cant do his best when hes being controlled

congrats!

your only seeing jiraiyas good sides and narutos bad sides, if you want your facts straight you sould see it from both sides, naruto have alweys been smart when it comes to training and when its a serious fight which he have to win, and would you call all naruto have been through no experience, jiraiya have alot more experience and alot of jutsus, but narutos kyuubi mode is on a hole other lvl, remmember pain couldnt keep it in his strongest jutsu, even so jiraiya would be a challenge against it but he could still not win

Oh yeah, and if it hadn’t been for Minato the Kyuubi would’ve broken free and killed Naruto. Honestly, there’s really no comparison between Jiraiya and Naruto. Jiraiya was far superior, Naruto just has raw power.

but sasuke isn’t even as old as jirayia and i bet he still out class him and why is people comparing that retarded naruto to jirayia naruto can’t compare to jirayia jirayia worked is ass of on is own without anyone’s help he could balance both ninjutsu training and senjustu training and manage to become better and all is pears so that he could even win tsunade’s heart even tho she is still fixated with dan jirayia is a winner and naruto is a loser.

No, that’s not what the point of that fight was. The point of that fight was to have him save the village and avenge Jiraiya. I already pointed out to you all the reasons why Pain was superior.

Yes he would, Pain even admitted it. Pain admitted after the fight that if Jiraiya knew his secret from the start he probably wouldn’t have been able to beat him. Lucky for Naruto that someone else did all the important work as usual…

this is a comment for I HATE NARUTO becouse i cant write there, i keep saying if becouse you started saying if jiraiya were brought back to life and of corse the frogs wouldnt help him, jiraiya cant seal all of the kyuubis power in a peice of paper, i said before that you were underrestermating naruto but this is ridiculous, anyway if they were to fight that would first happen after narutos training with bee and then he will be stronger than jiraiya, naruto can somehow teleport and use his chakra to crush and make ekstra hands, who knows what else he can do with it, also he can use rasengan now as powerfull as the tailed beast bomb, he have all of the ninetails chakra which could not be defeated only sealed, if jiraiya used the toad stomach jutsu then naruto would be strong enough to break through and even if jiraiya could put a seal on naruto it deosnt mean that he would be able to get that close to do so, besides jiraiya can only fight with his true strenght if he could controle himself and naruto isnt completely unexperienced so he knows what hes doing, thats why i think naruto would win and you cant chance my mind so lets just stop it here

he did something to gaara simular to what he pulled on zabuza and how did he know that kakashi was killed

have you for gotten the naruto shadowclone body slam when he used the thousand years of death when he penetrated gaara’s shukaku forn tail.

I said Naruto shadow clone body slam not Naruto’s ninja hand book when he pound Gaara to a pulp with clones i’m talking when he used deception to use thousand years of death with the kunai and the paper bomb.

And he also used a little against Neji in the final round of the chunin examination, when he knocked Neji for a loop and when he used clones the fool Kidomaro of the sound ninja four with clones but failed in the end and this isn’t much but he did use some tactics on Kiba ,and Akamaru.

i ketch your drift i’m not trying to disagree i completely agree with you, you have good sense and i also agree with you when you said Naruto can’t sense, detect or hear enemies sneaking up on him and that is an embarrassment as a ninja not to have such skill and in little genres of ninja arts like that ninjas like Jiraiya and Sasuke superior to him it’s a disgrace for someone people are having discussions about to be the next hokage not to possess such abilities of the ninja Naruto should have not wasted his time in the academy for damn he failed the graduation exam three times how pathetic is that he has been at that place three years and and couln’t even do a proper transformation and does he even know the duties of an hokage i thin he’s still to into stupidity to understand how the hokage system works.

^Can you believe this guy? He only failed because people hated him? No, he failed because he didn’t take the academy seriously.

Man stop bullshiting Naruto as shown that he is not the type to let what people may think or how they may feel about him get in the way of his life never give up and never going back on his word is his nindo his ninja way right and if he was like that the whole time of his life he should of taken that hatred that the people had for him and make it his motivation his slidenafil or viagra that’s what he should of done look at killer bee .

he couldnt if he were narutos age

maybe naruto did face some stronger enemies than jiraiya, you dont know that and your starting the argument about something else then i reply about it and then you say im the one trying to get attention from the main argument, here is the main argument that is that naruto can beat jiraiya becouse of the new mode and jiraiya cant beat it becouse noone else could without sealing the ninetails

minato was said to be the strongest shinobi exept for the sage of the six paths, it was also said that minato had surpassed jiraiya and the only way he could beat the ninetails was to seal it, the first also sealed it, btw naruto can use transformation jutsu like the time in the forest of death when he used shadow clones and transformed them into sasuke, sakura, kabuto and the time he fought against gaara where he transformed the frog into the ninetails

minato was said to be the strongest ninja and the first hokage also had his wood element which has more controle over the ninetails, wood element is also life energi that may have saved him by sealing the ninetails and you said naruto couldnt do transformation jutsu thats why i told you he could

Why don’t you point out some of Jiraiya’s weaknesses then, especially ones Naruto could exploit? The mistakes Naruto makes in battle are ridiculous, Jiraiya would capitalize on them and punish him. Naruto can’t even hear or detect enemies creeping up on him, unless he detects their presence in his new Kyuubi mode which he can’t even use properly without getting stuck in the ground.

That is not a weakness. Obviously anyone will have a hard time fighting against one of the most powerful characters in the show. I meant a personal combat flaw of Jiraiya’s that Naruto could capitalize on, and don’t say the pervy jutsu.

Well then like i said, maybe when Naruto has COMPLETELY mastered the Kyuubi’s power then you’ll have an argument, but until then no way.

And I like how you say “kids” are so stupid nowadays.. You my man, sure seems to be the one that’s stupid. or did you forget that naruto actually has kyuubi somewhat contained/under control now. Jiraya wouldent stand a chance anymore. The only way Naruto would loose that battle would be because of he’s good heart
(meaning that he could never kill Jiraya if it were to happen)

But enlighten me smartass. Tell me why jiraya would win – blink blink

Naruto has little to no experience using his raw power. His sage mode is more complete that Jiraiya’s but he can only use variations of the Rasengan in it, just like he always does, and just want Jiraiya would expect. Really, with his inferior intellect, inferior hand-to-hand combat skills, and predictable rasengan techniques that Jiraya knows all too well, please tell me why you think Naruto would win.

Oh, lets also hope that during the fight with Jiraya he doesn’t use his super kyuubi speed to get himself stuck in the ground like he did against Kisame…

I don’t know what you mean by ‘mastered them more than Jiraiya’. If you mean he can pump more power into them than sure, but if you think he can out-dodge Jiraiya and beat in him in skill when it comes to hand-to-hand combat and landing hits than no. Experience > Raw power. What skills of Jiraya’s does Naruto know apart from Sage Mode? How do you figure that Naruto suddenly became more wise after his battle with Pain? He gained a better understanding of Sasuke’s hatred, but be specific when you say ‘more wise’.

Jiraya knows Naruto can only use variations of the Rasengan and Kagebunshin to attack. Jiraiya on the other hand has a whole arseonal of attacks to choose from.

What he ‘knew’ was that Jiraiya was out of his league, hence why he was being trained by Jiraiya and not the other way around. Jiraya knows Naruto only has two main techniques, he knows how Naruto fights, it’s really a no brainer. Naruto wouldn’t even be able to being to come up with a strategy to counter all the moves Jiraiya knew. As for hand to hand combat, i’m not saying that Naruto hasn’t gotten better at hand-to-hand combat, but i don’t see how he’s on Jiraiya’s level, he can’t even use the flicker technique or replacement technique. Any time he ever showed the ability to use the replacement technique was in fillers.

He doesn’t have any specialized physical attacks like a needle barrage or hair binding technique, he can’t meld himself into the shadows like Jiraiya could, he can’t attack from a distance using a flame jutsu, an earth jutsu, or even wind element techniques like Danzo. His Rasen Shurikan takes too long to prepare and Jiraiya would see that coming from a mile.

I seriously doubt that even as a kid he would have been stupid enough to charge the Raikage. When he heard that Danzo became Hokage his first impulse was to barge into Danzo’s office and demand that he recall th death order on Sasuke, which he would have tried to do if Kakashi hadn’t stopped him.

He’s gotten a little more mature, i’ll admit that, he can understand what people are thinking a little better, but he’s no Jiraiya.

His new combat mode, you mean the Chakra energy? You think he could take down all sx pains at once with that alone? lol, sure thing. He’d just have to avoid getting all the shakra sucked out of him by the fat Ppin, avoid getting hit with shinra tensei or chibaku tensei, avoid getting hit with missiles from the physical combat pain, and fight off a bunch of summonings, all at the same time. He can’t even run at full speed in that form without getting his feet stuck in the ground and you think he’d be good enough to beat Jiraiya so bad that Jiraiya would’nt ‘have a chance’? Now THAt’S FUNNY!

So since he can’t control the raw power yet he would be at a severe disadvantage, and thus lose.

Actually in order to kill the Fat Pain he had to flood him full of sage mode chakra, which he would not be able to do in his Kyuubi mode. I’m pretty sure that missiles blowing up in his face would most definitely have an effect, it’s nonsense to state otherwise. The summonings getting thrown by him was a feat of strength, not of resistance. Have you ever heard of blunt force trauma vs piercing trauma? Basically this means that while he may be able to break a flat bolder with just a punch, his skin wouldn’t be able to withstand getting cut by something sharp, (like say the shrapnel from a missile) or getting burned by something hot (like say the heat from a missle exploding). He might be able to deal with the concussive force though.

If he had used Chibaku Tensei from the start it might have; more chakra = more powerful technique.

NO way?! He has the Kyuubi ‘somewhat’ under control now? Really? So what’s he going to do? Spam even bigger rasengan’s and more kagebushin? Is he going to use those Kyuubi chakra extensions that he can barely control? Maybe when Jiraiya gets i him a hair bind, or traps him under the ground in mud, or has a mountain frog eat him, or showers him in spine needles, or roasts him in flames, Naruto will find a way to escape using the pervy ninjutsu.

If he launched a tail beast bomb or rasen shurikan from a closed space underground or within a frogs stomach he’d get blown up with it.

Amaterasu does not produce a blast wave, the Rasen Shurikan and Tailed Best Bomb do.

rofl everyone shitted on you….so fuck off fag tryna act like you know everything and naruto would OBVIOUSLY win

oh and jiriaya wouldnt be able to go into sage mode while hes controlled by kabuto jus think its logical sence….dipshit…

naruto could use sage mode he even mastered it unlike jiraiya, they said he surpassed jiraiya and jirayia needs to be able to controle himself to use his full strenght, naruto is mastering a new mode thats even stronger than sage mode so i think naruto could win, the question is if he could go through with it

i think kabuto said the summoned ninja’s can still use their original techniques…so’ if sage mode was originated by jiraiya,then he can be still in sage mode even though he’s just been summoned…but of course,together with the frogs..