Naruto Manga Chapter 578

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TobiIsObito

PREVIEW:Hey guys, I’ve made a theory about Tobi’s identity. Hopefully, you won’t get mad at me after reading this, since that’s something I am counting on the least. It’s not like I am claiming that Tobi is definitely the person
I suspect, but I’ve discovered lots of evidences and thought that they might arouse your interest. So let’s start.

THEORY:My candidate is… well, you should already know by now. Seriously, observe Tobi’s hair style,
face features and the shape of his eye, they do match those of Obito’s. I advise you to read manga chapters 509-510 and look at Tobi very carefully and you will learn what I am talking about.One more thing that makes me thinks so is his sharingan’s ability , which is the same as Kakashi’s. In addition, for some kind of “unknown” reasons Kakashi’s Mangekyo technique doesn’t work on him.Well, probably because that’s something Tobi does
to himself in order to teleport all the time. What’s more, do you truly think it’s simply a coincidence that Tobi used
to display only a single sharingan until the fight between him an Konan?
My guess is that Obito managed to survive the boulders that crushed him.
         We clearly see that Tobi has only one sharingan on Kisame’s flashback and even Kisame mentions presence
of a single eye :”that eye…shining in the darkness”(If you don’t believe me read Naruto manga chapter 507)
What’s more when Tobi starts stepping out of darkness we see all of his body bandaged as if he had sustained an
injury in the past.Undoubtedly, something is wrong with Tobi’s body and we saw that 2 times. First, when he
fough Danzo’s guards , I am referring to the white stuff that came out after breaking his arm.Second time was when he confronted the 4th hokage , in the end his arms started melting.So, he was undeniably injured in the past
like Obito, which also makes me think that he is truly Kakashi’s friend. As for the white stuff, I think it has something to do with Zetsu, because Zetsu’s white body is made of the first hokage’s cells and Tobi must possess Hashirama’s DNA , since he is able to use izanagi. I suppose , Tobi uses senju cells to prolong his life as well.
In the ending of 120th episode Obito’s memorial stone is shown, but not a grave , which proves that his body was never found. Furthermore, the place were Obito supposedly died is located in the village hidden in grass and that’s exactly the same village where Zetsu comes from.
   The reason many people believe that Tobi isn’t Obito is that he should of been kid when he fought the fourth.
Well, since Obito was as old as Kakashi , I would advise you to take a better look at Kakashi in the episode.
He surely looked quite grown up and was nearly as tall as he is now. As regards Tobi , he did look younger at that time and if you aren’t lazy watch the episode again and pause at 03:53. He truly looks like a kid , the size of his
head and shoulders is truly small.Furthermore, Tobi was aware of Minato’s jutsu and he cleverly used the 4th’s abilities to his advantage.
        The second argument is Tobi possessing two sharingans. Personally, I never expected that so many people would be fooled by that. Tobi used to have only one eye and that was confirmed by Kisame. So, he obviously got
the other sharingan after the Uchiha clan massacre, just like Danzo. Tobi pointed out that he hadn’t met Danzo
since Uchiha incident, when he confronted the 6th Hokage. He is even shown to have a collection of sharingans at the beginning of the episode 216. If both of the eyes had been his own, then why did he start breaking the mask
during the battle against Konan? Why didn’t he just use izanagi with the right sharingan instead of wasting time on
breaking his mask? After all , he was on the verge of death and he truly didn’t have much time.
The answer is simple, Tobi purposefully sacrificed left random uchiha sharingan, so as to keep his original one with unique abilities ,which are really similar to those of Kakashi’s mangekyo.BTW, the eyes looked different when
Tobi revealed his left sharingan, so they put a hint that his eyes aren’t the same.
        It’s also claimed that Tobi can’t be Obito , because Kakashi met Obito when he died. Well, Kakashi “met” Rin and Minato as well, but it was simply an imagination. Think logically, how the hell Kakashi could have met the fourth when his soul was sealed in the Reaper death seal.So, the only person he met was his father.
       Up to a point, Tobi has revealed to have a pacifist nature by willing to put the whole world under genjutsu so as to stop wars.At first, I thought he was lying and all he cared about was a world domination.But I was proved wrong after hearing ” I am nobody , I don’t want to be anybody , all I care about is completing Tsuki no me”.I guess he truly meant that. What’s more ” I am nobody” should make you think that Tobi is someone both unknown and insignificant in the shinobi history like Obito .There is one more line which proves that Tobi isn’t power hungry villain and he only struggles for fulfilling his own ideals:”The world is completely worthless… there
is nothing left in but misery”.He definitely sounds like someone who had been through ordeal like a war and while he is saying this , the image focuses on his sharingan , as if there is some kind of sad story connected with it.
        The recent trend I’ve noticed is that some of the people don’t take Obito seriously thinking that he is a random character.Actually , they have no idea how mistaken they are! Firstly, because Obito was the one who gave
Kakashi sharingan , that’s enough for him not to be a random character. Moreover, he gave Kakashi something more valuable than sharingan- a lesson that a friend is the most precious thing one can ever have.
Yeah…FRIENDSHIP! That’s what the whole anime is about. That’s why Naruto keeps chasing after Sasuke nearly 3/4th of the show.Apparently, Obito has forgotten all about it , but he shall soon reconfirm true meaning and strength of friendship after seeing Naruto backed up by his friends.

PREDICTION:Since we haven’t seen how Kakashi got his Mangekyo , I think it;s somehow in connection with Tobi ,
so ,when we learn that we might uncover some parts of Tobi’s mystery. I have a feeling that we are going to hear popular line again:”In the ninja world, those who break rules and regulations are called trash, but those who…”
I am sure that Tobi’s mangekyo is going to give awau his identity and I think that the last fight will be
T O B I V S T E A M 7.

OPINION:Ok, I am not forcing you guys to believe me and you don’t have to. Probably this is a bullshit theory , but the theories I ‘ve read so far ARE EVEN MORE BULLSHIT!!!
People claim that Tobi is Izuna , whose death was confirmed by Madara himself , others say that it’s Kagami Uchiha- a random uchiha in Danzo’s platoon , whose only purpose was to show that people with different abilities
are put together in one squad so as to make missions more productive.If you look at other members you will see
an Akimichi there and other people from different clans.Since Uchiha was Konoha’s military police force , they had to put at least one uchiha in the third and Danzo’s platoon.That’s as far as Kagami Uchiha is concerned, but I have one question to Kagami funs , why exactly him? I mean there were many Uchihas alive a that time , so why do you insist on Kagami? Personally , I strongly doubt that Tobi lived during Madara’s era, because everybody in the Uchiha clan were sick and tired of both pointless wars and Madara’s pointless ambitions. That’s why he was betrayed by all of them.
I can’t believe some people think that Tobi could be Shisui. Damn, that dude was found dead in the river and both of his eyes were taken. Moreover, he should have been a 5-year-old like Itachi, when Tobi attaked the Leaf. Besides, if he was alive , Itachi would have never awakened Mangekyo.
As regards the elder son of the sage, Tobi should of had rinnegan in both of the eyes and he couldn’t have survived so long, even the sage himself was unable to do that.

SUMMARY:Guys, please don’t get mad at people who think that Tobi is Obito and keep your offensive comments to yourselves . Firstly , because you should respect each other’s opinion.Secondly, I have already posted lots of evidences that are supposed to make us thinks that Tobi is Obito. And finally, I suppose Obito is the most reasonable candidate at this point.

P.S. LIKE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME IN GENERAL, OR AT LEAST, IF YOU ENJOYED READING THE POST. STILL LIKE IF YOU DISAGREE, SO THAT THIS COMMENT WILL BECOME BEST RATED AND EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE
TO READ IT. THE POINT IS THAT I WANT TO SHARE MY OPINION WITH EVERYBODY AND THE OTHER WAY ROUND , I WANT EVERYBODY TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS WITH ME .

THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN ADVANCE

Niggaguy

yea that sounds like him alright
reginleaf

Basically, I see only two ways in which Tobi could be Obito:

1: it’s not Obito really, just someone using his body. The flaw in the arguement being why anyone use a body in such poor condition?

2: It really is Obito. Now his motives are the issue. Someone had to change him (though this could lead to another Naruto series as they hunt down the much stronger new guy…) .

Also, how would Obito know Madara (and not just his name)?

To me, it would seem more likely that it would be Izuna. Obviously the same issue of him being dead comes up, but remember when Madara said that he unlocked the rinnegan before he died. Therefore, he could bring his brother back from the dead, with this hugely complex plan placed onto his shoulders to do something big and mighty (i doubt the eye of the moon plan is really the goal; it seems more likely that the plan is to turn Madara into the next SO6P).

Don’t forget that eyes can be transplanted. Izuna may have one of Obito’s eyes (the one Kakashi doesn’t have), or he may have another Uchiha’s eye(s). More than Obito (and by extension, Kakashi) would have had that specific jutsu.

I believe Tobi (whoever he is) does indeed possess the powers of the zetsu. Of course, we don’t know how old the zetsu is either, so it could be possible that Tobi (assuming he is Izuna) is immortal in the sense that he no longer ages. Don’t forget that Kakuzu was also able to stay alive for a long period of time (91 or so years old when Naruto killed him).
- TobiIsObito
  
  I doubt that Tobi lived at the time when Madara did as I said, because nobody supported him anymore.
  As for Izuna , there is not a single resemblance between him and Tobi and he is truly dead.Moreover, why would he have transplanted only one sharingan? How was blind dude able to do that?It doesn’t make any sense.
  Despite seeing some immortal people like Kakuzu and Hidan, I don’t think Tobi is also one of them. First, there is not a true immortality just as Kakuzu said, in fact , he was collecting hearts after battles and that was the trick .
  Second, I suspect that Tobi is able to travel through time, or at least somehow manipulate it. If you remember Tsuchikage broke down Sasuke into molecules or at least he thought so at Kage summit. Sasuke’s chakra completely vanished, just like Tobi’s chakra does when he uses his jutsu. So, Tobi was able to suck Sasuke with his jutsu just before Onoki performed his one. However, the time was too short and we didn’t see Tobi doing it , that’s why I think that he somehow stops time and he does the same think when Sasuke is
  paralyzed by Danzo’s jutsu , it really looks like as if he stops or slows down the time.
  - TobiIsObito
    
    the same thing *
  - gyuuki
    
    How can obito claim the rinnegan? How did he even know about nagato? Y would he attack kakashi? And the whole kisame part the outline of that shadow sounds just like.tobi and looks like madara he even.calls him madara so man I’m gonna guess ur wrong. Unless zetsus abilities can revive the sharingan like.body parts then anything is possible
  - reginleaf
    
    About him transplanting only one sharingan, there is no proof of this. He could have simply covered one to conserve chakra, or to keep his identity even more obscured. And Madara could have given him his rinnegan when he died, which would make his claim to the rinnegan Nagato possesses true.
    And I’m seeing another issue. If Tobi could manipulate time, even if only on a small scale, would that not mean that he could control his aging process just a little? Although, he could also have just used Izunagi to rescue Sasuke (it does alter reality after all), closing the eye hidden behind his mask. Or, just as he showed, he could have used his vacuum jutsu from a distance, just as was going to during Sasuke’s fight with Danzo. What I’m trying to say is that if he could manipulate time, then he could control or partially control his aging process. However, there are other ways in which he could have rescued Sasuke.
    
    I’ll give you this: it seems incredibly unlikely that Tobi is immortal. Though as a second theory, the zetsu DNA which he possesses could grant him an extended life. Also, might I guide you to the Naruto Wiki? If you look at the pictures of Izuna and Tobi, there is a lot of semblance between the two. Plus, if Izuna’s character is as Tobi described, they hold a lot of similar characteristics. The most important one being that they both want to complete Madara’s plans.
    
    Of course, the fact that Tobi hides his face so much makes it impossible to tell who he resembles the most. It could be argued for any Uchiha to be Tobi based on looks alone, since he has their key characteristics. My only issue with it being Obito is motive. It is possible, though I still find it less likely than Izuna.
    
    Anyways, this debate will not end until Kishimoto decides to tell us, not that I mind the weekly prediction. But I see that you posted again. Why?
  - TobiIsObito
    
    Actually , it wasn’t me who posted my theory again. Well, Madara said that he unlocked rinnegan just before death , so it means that he didn’t have time to do anything but die. Moreover, I don’t think Hashirama would have stood still and watched how Madara performed a weird jutsu , so it’s highly unlikely that Madara was able to revive his brother. The other reason is that, when Madara took his brother’s eyes , Izuna died very soon. So, if Tobi was Izuna helping his brother, then Madara would have known about the power of the sixs paths before he became blind . But it doesn’t make sense, he fought against Hashirama lots of times and why
    he would wait so long to obtain senju’s DNA. I mean he had lots of opportunities to unlock rinnegan before the battle at the valley of end. Here’s what could have happened. Madara was against truce with Senju , he even lost battle over the seat of Hokage and that’s why he decided to leave the village. He declared war against leaf , though he couldn’t do anything alone and started searching for more power. I guess that’s the time when he learned secrets of the Sage of the sixs paths and decided to have a fight against Hashirama again. I guess , Tobi plays some part in making Madara aware of the secrets. After Madara’s death Tobi took his rinnegan and implanted in newborn Nagato’s eyes. The fact that Madara knew Nagato’s existence proves that Tobi has to be someone from the future, otherwise Madara has to be fortune teller , which is truly highly unlikely.
  - reginleaf
    
    Or Tobi can communicate with Madara beyond life.
    
    I have a differing opinion of what happened at the valley of the end. Madara said he didn’t die there; I think he may have died soon after bringing Izuna back to life (from his injuries or something like that).
    
    Besides, I really hope Tobi doesn’t end up being a time traveler, it just complicates things unnecessarily. And it would make him way too strong.
    
    To clarify the last point: Small scale time travel makes him strong, but not like traveling back 100 years or so does. I worry about him being able to actually travel through time, not just manipulate it a little to give him an edge.
  - reginleaf
    
    …
yinyang

the thing is he wouldnt wanna destroy the hidden leaf fucktard
Jonathon Collins

think about it obito going against konoha the village that he was raised in, and the girl he loved was in,and dont you think that tobi would need another eye after he izanagi on konan, to get the rinnegan, and he clearly shows a sharigan paired with his rinnegan afterwards, plus he must have been old enough to have been in the battle between the first, and madara, because he says that the dna of harashima in his hideout was collected during that battle, and i am totally not mad so dont worry. About him breaking his mask, most of his cloths were blasted to pieces, im surprised that he did not have the whole thing blown off. if people stoped speculating this would be soo much easier

naruto-san

what is the name of the opening song

Rune2341

i hate to say this but it cant be obito…why you might ask the answer is simple the side that obito side that got crushed is the side that tobi view from so logic would say what? that eye is not functional… but it is anime weirder things have happend
- Khbirthbysleep
  
  Thats not what he asked

Itachi

I Think the 5 kage will be toyed by Madara and most of them will be in their near death and when that time comes is the exact time that itachi and sasuke beat kabuto to stop the edo tensei and Madara will vanish and come back to death again… and the real deal is Tobi with his sharingan and rinnegan I think Naruto and Sasuke will fight together because Sasuke will be enlightened by Itachi to Protect the konoha and his friends no matter what happens.

Tobi is Obito fan

Ithis we should all read this post!TobiIsObito7 hours agoPREVIEW:Hey guys, I’ve made a theory about Tobi’s identity. Hopefully, you won’t get mad at me after reading this, since that’s something I am counting on the least. It’s not like I am claiming that Tobi is definitely the person
I suspect, but I’ve discovered lots of evidences and thought that they might arouse your interest. So let’s start.THEORY:My candidate is… well, you should already know by now. Seriously, observe Tobi’s hair style,
face features and the shape of his eye, they do match those of Obito’s. I advise you to read manga chapters 509-510 and look at Tobi very carefully and you will learn what I am talking about.One more thing that makes me thinks so is his sharingan’s ability , which is the same as Kakashi’s. In addition, for some kind of “unknown” reasons Kakashi’s Mangekyo technique doesn’t work on him.Well, probably because that’s something Tobi does
to himself in order to teleport all the time. What’s more, do you truly think it’s simply a coincidence that Tobi used
to display only a single sharingan until the fight between him an Konan?
My guess is that Obito managed to survive the boulders that crushed him.
We clearly see that Tobi has only one sharingan on Kisame’s flashback and even Kisame mentions presence
of a single eye :”that eye…shining in the darkness”(If you don’t believe me read Naruto manga chapter 507)
What’s more when Tobi starts stepping out of darkness we see all of his body bandaged as if he had sustained an
injury in the past.Undoubtedly, something is wrong with Tobi’s body and we saw that 2 times. First, when he
fough Danzo’s guards , I am referring to the white stuff that came out after breaking his arm.Second time was when he confronted the 4th hokage , in the end his arms started melting.So, he was undeniably injured in the past
like Obito, which also makes me think that he is truly Kakashi’s friend. As for the white stuff, I think it has something to do with Zetsu, because Zetsu’s white body is made of the first hokage’s cells and Tobi must possess Hashirama’s DNA , since he is able to use izanagi. I suppose , Tobi uses senju cells to prolong his life as well.
In the ending of 120th episode Obito’s memorial stone is shown, but not a grave , which proves that his body was never found. Furthermore, the place were Obito supposedly died is located in the village hidden in grass and that’s exactly the same village where Zetsu comes from.
The reason many people believe that Tobi isn’t Obito is that he should of been kid when he fought the fourth.
Well, since Obito was as old as Kakashi , I would advise you to take a better look at Kakashi in the episode.
He surely looked quite grown up and was nearly as tall as he is now. As regards Tobi , he did look younger at that time and if you aren’t lazy watch the episode again and pause at 03:53. He truly looks like a kid , the size of his
head and shoulders is truly small.Furthermore, Tobi was aware of Minato’s jutsu and he cleverly used the 4th’s abilities to his advantage.
The second argument is Tobi possessing two sharingans. Personally, I never expected that so many people would be fooled by that. Tobi used to have only one eye and that was confirmed by Kisame. So, he obviously got
the other sharingan after the Uchiha clan massacre, just like Danzo. Tobi pointed out that he hadn’t met Danzo
since Uchiha incident, when he confronted the 6th Hokage. He is even shown to have a collection of sharingans at the beginning of the episode 216. If both of the eyes had been his own, then why did he start breaking the mask
during the battle against Konan? Why didn’t he just use izanagi with the right sharingan instead of wasting time on
breaking his mask? After all , he was on the verge of death and he truly didn’t have much time.
The answer is simple, Tobi purposefully sacrificed left random uchiha sharingan, so as to keep his original one with unique abilities ,which are really similar to those of Kakashi’s mangekyo.BTW, the eyes looked different when
Tobi revealed his left sharingan, so they put a hint that his eyes aren’t the same.
It’s also claimed that Tobi can’t be Obito , because Kakashi met Obito when he died. Well, Kakashi “met” Rin and Minato as well, but it was simply an imagination. Think logically, how the hell Kakashi could have met the fourth when his soul was sealed in the Reaper death seal.So, the only person he met was his father.
Up to a point, Tobi has revealed to have a pacifist nature by willing to put the whole world under genjutsu so as to stop wars.At first, I thought he was lying and all he cared about was a world domination.But I was proved wrong after hearing ” I am nobody , I don’t want to be anybody , all I care about is completing Tsuki no me”.I guess he truly meant that. What’s more ” I am nobody” should make you think that Tobi is someone both unknown and insignificant in the shinobi history like Obito .There is one more line which proves that Tobi isn’t power hungry villain and he only struggles for fulfilling his own ideals:”The world is completely worthless… there
is nothing left in but misery”.He definitely sounds like someone who had been through ordeal like a war and while he is saying this , the image focuses on his sharingan , as if there is some kind of sad story connected with it.
The recent trend I’ve noticed is that some of the people don’t take Obito seriously thinking that he is a random character.Actually , they have no idea how mistaken they are! Firstly, because Obito was the one who gave
Kakashi sharingan , that’s enough for him not to be a random character. Moreover, he gave Kakashi something more valuable than sharingan- a lesson that a friend is the most precious thing one can ever have.
Yeah…FRIENDSHIP! That’s what the whole anime is about. That’s why Naruto keeps chasing after Sasuke nearly 3/4th of the show.Apparently, Obito has forgotten all about it , but he shall soon reconfirm true meaning and strength of friendship after seeing Naruto backed up by his friends. PREDICTION:Since we haven’t seen how Kakashi got his Mangekyo , I think it;s somehow in connection with Tobi ,
so ,when we learn that we might uncover some parts of Tobi’s mystery. I have a feeling that we are going to hear popular line again:”In the ninja world, those who break rules and regulations are called trash, but those who…”
I am sure that Tobi’s mangekyo is going to give awau his identity and I think that the last fight will be
T O B I V S T E A M 7.OPINION:Ok, I am not forcing you guys to believe me and you don’t have to. Probably this is a bullshit theory , but the theories I ‘ve read so far ARE EVEN MORE BULLSHIT!!!
People claim that Tobi is Izuna , whose death was confirmed by Madara himself , others say that it’s Kagami Uchiha- a random uchiha in Danzo’s platoon , whose only purpose was to show that people with different abilities
are put together in one squad so as to make missions more productive.If you look at other members you will see
an Akimichi there and other people from different clans.Since Uchiha was Konoha’s military police force , they had to put at least one uchiha in the third and Danzo’s platoon.That’s as far as Kagami Uchiha is concerned, but I have one question to Kagami funs , why exactly him? I mean there were many Uchihas alive a that time , so why do you insist on Kagami? Personally , I strongly doubt that Tobi lived during Madara’s era, because everybody in the Uchiha clan were sick and tired of both pointless wars and Madara’s pointless ambitions. That’s why he was betrayed by all of them.
I can’t believe some people think that Tobi could be Shisui. Damn, that dude was found dead in the river and both of his eyes were taken. Moreover, he should have been a 5-year-old like Itachi, when Tobi attaked the Leaf. Besides, if he was alive , Itachi would have never awakened Mangekyo.
As regards the elder son of the sage, Tobi should of had rinnegan in both of the eyes and he couldn’t have survived so long, even the sage himself was unable to do that.SUMMARY:Guys, please don’t get mad at people who think that Tobi is Obito and keep your offensive comments to yourselves . Firstly , because you should respect each other’s opinion.Secondly, I have already posted lots of evidences that are supposed to make us thinks that Tobi is Obito. And finally, I suppose Obito is the most reasonable candidate at this point.P.S. LIKE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME IN GENERAL, OR AT LEAST, IF YOU ENJOYED READING THE POST. STILL LIKE IF YOU DISAGREE, SO THAT THIS COMMENT WILL BECOME BEST RATED AND EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE
TO READ IT. THE POINT IS THAT I WANT TO SHARE MY OPINION WITH EVERYBODY AND THE OTHER WAY ROUND , I WANT EVERYBODY TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS WITH ME . THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Khbirthbysleep

i think you are wrong, io dont think any of them are tobi- obito, shisui, kagami, izuna. non of them. i think that we will find out later and here is my theory — if you have read the manga, you know that the impure world ressurection doesnt end when the caster dies. so my guess is, that tobi is an impure world ressurection of someone, maybe kakashi’s dad. that would explain his hatred of the village and saying that he wants to make a world with no lies- him being cast off for saving his comrades. it would also explain why he knows about madara, if he was just a ressurection of anyone. oooo, maybe its the real madara’ s brother, it would explain how he can use the eyes to full potential. well, whoever it is, i think that his caster would have died too. that way no one is manipulating him. now, i may be wrong, tell me what you think of my hypothosis. pleas no yelling or cursing, its just a guess. and dont take it as true either, just a guess.
I just had an idea, what if it was the sage of six paths that someone brought back and never released. and he was angry because of all the wars, and thought that what he did was wrong (teaching jutsu and stuff) and thought that he had to fix it and the eye of the moon was the only thing he could do. OORR MAYBE its his oldest son who got the sharingan, not the rinnegan, and his fathers “eyes” (chakra and spiritual energy). He believed power was the key to peace, the younger thinking it was love. That started the senju uchiha war. So what if it is just the oldest son, still trying to use power to make peace.
- RE
  
  so you are saying that Orochimaru used to be true leader of akatsuki? It can’t be Kakashi’s dead, because Kakashi met his soul after death and a soul can’t be on two places at the same time.
  - Khbirthbysleep
    
    If you remember right, the third hokage, before his death, said that it was a forbidden jutsu. That means someone must have used it before orochimaru. Meaning that someone else made tobi. Probably the first person to use the jutsu. Then the guy died and tobi is just wondering around out there.
  - Bogusname
    
    It was the 2nd Hokage that created edo tensei.
  - Khbirthbysleep
    
    Then maybe he actually made tobi and died before he was able to release him. Maybe it was the first dead guy he brought back and didnt want to have to send him away like the others. maybe he didnt realize what he was doing when he brought this person back
  - Christopher
    
    then who is there 2 people now? tobi cant have madara soul if madara is brought back with his soul too.
  - Nina
    
    A soul can’t be on two places right? Then how come Minato be both there with Kakashi and with Naruto?
- Christopher
  
  then why is it that when he gets hit by the 4th hokage and konan that his arm doesnt come back like with madara and itachi or any of the guys brought back?
- Nina
  
  I agree, but remember that the real Madara’s brother IS Izuna. So you can’t say you don’t think it is Izuna…
  
  But the thing with sage of six paths was a smart theory. Gotta think about that one for a time…
  - Khbirthbysleep
    
    I know now the Izuna is Madara’s brother. I dint when I posted that on another page, and then I just copy and pasted it.
Jonathon Collins

Tobi still has other sharingan eye so that is impossible, or how else would he have taken rinnegan with a blank eye-hole, and a eye that is closed permenantly?
GGGGG

Well 16 years ago when kyuubi attacked the konoha the masked man was not Obito, cuz he was not stronger than the 4th, so SHUT UP people why the F*** yo niggas be saing that it obito cuz its not
Christopher

shisu wouldnt have made the fox come after the village because he knew they would blame the uchihas for that and he wanted to prevent that. plus that guy said to the 4th that he had been waiting a long long time for that moment when naruto was born. I guess he started plaining his project at age 5 then. anyone could have been replaced by zetsu clones to look like they died but the wouldnt have been able to use the shisu eye unless they where the real dead. but one thing does get me. Why is it that tobi didnt show his self until after Itachi died? maybe he would have known who he was? They knew about one another because they both knew the others past and everything about one another.
Nina

Please! Can you stop? Because of you I thought so to. I went and told it to my sister and friends, they laughed and humiliated me! Obito is the one who cared too much about friends, why would he want a war? He was young during Nine-tails rampage (and if not, he was weak, weaker than the 4th). Even so I liked your comment, you had many proves for you theory (not sure if it is true or not), looks ike you have thought very much about this, before posting, compared to other people!

Glad you talked normally without curses… But rethink your theory once again, or believe in what you believe in and we will know the truth soon…

Khbirthbysleep

i wonder how long it will take Sasuke to realie that when him and Itachi end the Edo Tensei, Itachi will go away and wont be able to explain everything to Sasuke. heh, he will feel really dumb after that.

Masaki23joe

Tobi is not obito. Tobi is either a shell of madara or someone we don’t know yet. Tobi being obito from a story point of view would not make sense.

TobiIsObito

Actually , it would a lot and it would be really interesting. People like Izuna who have obvious motives would be boring .
- gyuuki
  
  How r izunas motives understandable?
  - TobiIsObito
    
    well, he is Madara’s brother , that’s enough.
  - gyuuki
    
    Who madara killed fore his eyes
  - DUUUH
    
    Then it’s not Izuna

Killerkam

ignore the dumbass obito fans because they know damn well he wasnt a evil character an they also know damn well tobi was out there to do things when obito was still alive oh so let me guess he somehow found a way to jump 30 years older or more? ok if its obito explain to me how exactly was he able to timeskip from a 12 year old kid to a middle aged man in a matter of a fews years to come back an attack konoha before naruto was born lol you kids make me laugh with this dumbass shit id rate this theory to be the worst of all an ive heard some pretty weird shit lol

Tobi: im your father

I agreed with u killerkam there is one theory i have of whom tobi is. My guess is tobi is tsunade father…remember on how tobi said that naruto now able to sense evil within a person like Mito did. Tsunade father is a son of a hokage, but yet we havent heard anything about him yet. It could be that Mito sensed something evil within him n not choose him as the host for the Kyubi , nor harashima give him the tittle of the hokage. If we look back tobi said he admire harashima but yet hate him. Maybe he fought with harashima for the kage tittle and lost thats y he hate harashima so much. Thats my theory anyway who know maybe its someone else. Its just odd to me thay the son of harashima were never mention is a mystery. Plus he seem to know lots of konoha history n seem to have senju, uzumaki blood( use the chain like kushina to control tail beast) plus with sharingan he able to use izanagi. My guess not to good but im sure better than obito theory.
- Christopher
  
  madara would never have trusted a senju since they show how much he hated them. But he did give the rennigan to nagato but he is just a destant relative of the senju. He wouldnt be a senju as much as madara wants all of them dead. they never talk aboth the 3rd hokage other son either. plus narutos mother had the chakara to surpress the nine tails also which they needed like the 1st hokages wife. I’d say tobi is a uchiha from the way he talks about the unfinished version of izangi that danzo use and how his was the real deal and you must be a uchiha and senju cells to use it to its full power. You must be a senju or uchiha but you gotta have sharringan because thats the trade off of izangi. it won’t work if your a senju with uchiha dna. you gotta have the eyes.
Troyuchihakid

your kinda right wit wat u said, when he has a speal to kakashi after rin got captured, he does say he will destroy the idea of ninja if to obbandon a comrade is scum…….kinda a setup for bad intentions…..

Castrouzumaki

Tobi fought against Minato….So Tobi can’t be Obito…..

Troyuchihakid

that proves nothing at all
obito was gone by that point, take a look at the ep again, kakashi is in his late teens…..so wats your point
people like you should not be fans
TobiIsObito

I posted a theory about Tobi’s identity and asked people to go to episode in which tobi fought minato and pause at 03:53. Obviously nobody has done that yet.

Boggarth krhoakz

ONE THING FOR SURE TOBI IS GAY

Dwarf_minecraftorperated

tobi lost so it still might be obito
Kana

Indeed, ttebane!

Boggarth khroakz

tobi is orochimaru

http://profile.yahoo.com/XGTLHPG7SIJNRLPMJORQ4CIQAA Tassaduq

I don’t know why no one is saying that Tobi can also be the first Hokage?
Kabuto have not summoned 1st Hokage and we don’t know if He is sealed or not.
Tobi can be First hokage also, Maybe He and Madara made some plan to end the world from Wars.

gyuuki

Come on man watch the fight between orochimaru and hiruzen sarutobi

jonypetry

loool. Spoiler alert.

Next battle:

Kabuto will summon all sharigan family that itatchi killed in the village. It´s gonna be a huge fight xD

Kali007_14

good one
TobiIsObito

Sharingan family, seriously?

Younggstar007

what is the name of that opening song!its badass

Connor

the name of the song is called becoming closer by OF Machines

Naruhina

i have a question? could madar always switch to rennigan when ever he wanted or was it because kabuto made him stronger than he originally was? or because he has hashiramas powers?

Bogusname

He could always do it. The orderof progression for their eyes is: Sharingan to Mangekyo Sharingan to Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan to Rinnegan. And I’m not certain that the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan has to be obtained before they can unlock the Rinnegan.

Killerkam

People thats not just madara its basically him fused with the 1st hokage which explains why hes so hard to kill an tbh if the jinchuurinki get to him hes goin to die the 5 hokages are strong but none can beat a being thats senju/uchiha an something ive been wanting to question that i havent heard ppl ask yet is what was it that naruto saw ya think theat hes hiding from when him an sasuke clashed

narutokicksass

not sure exactly what he “saw” but we know that from what he did see he realised that sasuke’s heart was set on revenge and if sasuke carried out his plans and naruto had to stop him, the conclusion would be they both die… wether that means naruto will sacrifice himself to kill sasuke or he will kill sasuke and kill himself we dont quite know yet. but either way we really dont want them to fight just in case
Christopher

He saw that sauke wanted to kill everyone in the village and he doesn’t anyone to fight him because he is to strong for them and would kill them and not let them live
Christopher

plus the old toad sage already told him that he would be the one to fight him but I think that was a miss understanding by everyone. The sage said he would fight a guy with strong power in his eyes but they didnt say in was sasuke but I’d say that he meant tobi or some one but everyone just thought it was sasuke because they traded blows before and everyone wants them to fight.

NOTOBITO-Shodai

it is plausible that Madara had a child that we just dont know of yet, which is a more sound theory than all this Obito-tobi crap everyone is spewing. and to the tard that thinks “I don’t know why no one is saying that Tobi can also be the first Hokage?
Kabuto have not summoned 1st Hokage and we don’t know if He is sealed or not.
Tobi can be First hokage also, Maybe He and Madara made some plan to end the world from Wars.”

well The first was sealed with via dead demon seal .
as was the second, third and fourth hokage.

It cant possibly be Orochimaru sinch he was sealed by Itachi Via Sword of totsuka used by his Susanoo’.

TobiIsObito

Madara’s child? lol , are trying to make fun of us? As for the first Hokage , you know that his soul is sealed in Reaper death seal and that’s the reason why Kabuto didn’t summon him, so leave him alone. What’s more , when Tobi said “I am nobody” , it obviously means that his identity is insignificant and obscure in shinobi history. I doubt that Madara’s son would have underestimated his identity so much, instead he had to be proud of it.
- 030rell
  
  Agreed, I believe it may be possible the masked man is Madara’s younger brother, though im not sure how well that fits. Even more so then being Madara’s brother I believe he may be an evil or demonic soul that once was a part of the sage of six paths. I’ve come to this assumption based on the manga chapter about the baby tailed beast; the sage of Six paths stated someone who is pure will come and use the beast for good unlike himself. Now we all agree he was speaking of Naruto, but for him to claim he used them wrongfully must mean the sage had some evil in him. I think that evil is the masked man. We know his body is fake too, kabuto stated its significant and the fourth made it melt. I think the evil “spirit’ is currently using a fake body as a host till he can control the tailed beast and restore his former form. Wrote alot I know, sorry guys, but heres some stuff to think about, just my opinion of course.
  - gyuuki
    
    Well u could b right if u read the chapter right the so6p wasnt evil the juubi was
  - Khbirthbysleep
    
    Quick unrelated question, what number of tails does a “gyuuki” have?

TobiIsObito

Hopefully, Kabuto will summon Shisui Uchiha giving us opportunity to see one more gifted Uchiha in action.

Thinkinglogical

sasuke’s mom was pretty gifted…gifted in the sack

http://www.facebook.com/belalhusein Belal Al-Husein

http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Shisui_Uchiha

notice end of second paragraph

TobiIsObito

you ruined everything for me
- TobiIsObito
- Thinkinglogical
  
  thats what your mom said when i didn’t use a condom
Thinkinglogical

it doesn’t make sense… ”Itachi was Shisui’s best friend; in fact, Itachi thought of him as an older brother. Shisui taught him that “self-sacrifice… a nameless shinobi who protects peace from within its shadow…” was the true mark of a shinobi. ” so why would he want revenge?
Fan

Who knows maybe tobi is using shisui’s boddy as a shell. Or tobi is just Kagami Uchiha? when sasuke fought danzo, tobi was talking to him self about danzo like he knew him, plus how know’s if kagami wasn’t a close relative of madara(like a son or something)??
Khbirthbysleep

It didnt work for me

Coodha

I think that Tobi is The Older Son Of The Sage Of The Six Paths. But forget that, I want Madara to kill the 5 kage, I want Itachi and Sauske to kill Kabuto and I want Naruto and Bee to kill The masked man. Therefore I want Itachi, Sasuke Naruto and Bee to team up to fight Madara!!

Khbirthbysleep

To the first thing, thats what I think- at least it is one of my theories

Thinkinglogical

this might sound stupid…but do you think tobi might be 3rd hokage’s unnamed son? the dad of konohomaru or whatever his name is…

theDarkside

When tobi fought Konan he said you have to be an Uchiha and have senju cells to use izanagi. Tobi used izanagi so he has to be an Uchiha so he can’t be the third hokage’s son.
- Thinkinglogical
  
  wtf….no he didn’t…how else would danzo use izanagi….
  - theDarkside
    
    Tobi says that danzo couldn’t properly harness the power of izanagi honestly why don’t you read the manga again before assuming.
- Christopher
  
  You don’t gotta be a uchiha to use izangi. You have to have senju and uchiha cells together to use izangi. Uchiha cells have to be sharringan eyes to be right. You lose the light in a eye everytime you use izangi. so really you need senju cells and a sharringan. Maybe thats why he has so many extra eyes? He use izangi as much as he wants and just replace the eye with another one. He gave nagato the rennigan because he wanted to stay in the shadows and the leader needed to be the strongest member to catch the tailed beast, plus who ever had rennigan was sync with the statue which sucks alot of chakara from you. look at what it did to nagato. Thats another reason tobi wanted sasuke. But again I think tobi would be a real uchiha because of his comments made to konan. He said danzo had a unfinished version of izangi but he had a perfect version which you would need to be a senju or a uchiha to have that plus, Madara would never team up with a senju or senju desendent at all because he hates them to much. he wants to kill every senju in the world so tobi couldnt be a senju and his comments to konan mean he is a true uchiha or a copy of one. Like maybe madara. Maybe he is one of Madaras clones but not a zetsu clone. zetsu clone or just like Madara and can use the wood style clones which no one can tell they are different but as many times as he has had his arms blown off he would have disappeared if he was a clone I would think so zetsu was made from 1st hokages dna but tobi was a uchiha who implanted zetsu dna in his body like madara did. but madara can use the true wood style like the 1st hokage because kabuto implanted the 1st hokages dna into madara to make him stronger because before he only had zetsu dna in him that he grew from the 1st hokages dna. I say that because he said he wanted to try sometimg and it was woos style so if he already had the full senju dna he would have known he could use wood style. I bet under his shirt was a zetsu face before kabuto changed it and now its the 1st hokages face. Zetsu was their first try to combine senju and uchiha cells then the next step was tobi then madara did it to his self. its just that tobi didnt have the ems or maybe even ms to awaken rennigan.

Yellowflash

ppl still wit dat obito theory which it could make sense but not imma laugh if tobi is obito which im not hoping for it buttttttt…… it would make naruto more interesting

Nemdgreat

Tobi: ” I’m no one… I don’t want to be anyone. All I care about is completing the Eye of the Moon Plan.”

if tobi is nobody then he might not be a human.. he had lost his limbs several times, can perform izanagi.
so i think tobi is a mixture of an uchiha body and the gene of hashirama senju.. the prerequisite to perform izanagi..

he is maybe a member of an uchiha clan inserted with a gene from hashirama senju by the true Uchiha madara.. he had collected from their battle at the valley of the end. then Madara used the ultimate genjutsu on Tobi called koto-amatsukami on him. The genjutsu is known to have manipulate the mind of anyone without even noticing them. Maybe Madara programmed the mind of Tobi to give the rennigan he had awakaned to Nagato before his death so he can revived him later when the right time comes… and to collect all the nine bijuus to awakened the ten tails and cast the eternal tsukuyumi on the world.
As we always see Tobi, did not want anything.. as normal human does. he does not want to have a name and all that he care is the completion of eye of the moon plan. Why? because he is just doing what the real madara had rigged him to do through koto amatsukumi.

Thinkinglogical

no because kabuto said “will the other act accordingly?” so there is some doubt D bag… tobi is some1…i hope kishi doesn’t pull some dbz shit and make it so tobi was created in a lab because he has copied so much from other animes…. -.-

Thinkinglogical

am i the only 1 who thinks it sounds kind of gay that madara and hashrima fought and madara got some of his “Cells” did madara give him a bj or get fucked by him or something? i don’t get how he could of gotten his micro sized cells in his body without sex…

Ddd

i just want to know how he defeat hashrima they sad hashrima win but see him he has hashrima face Oo

Christopher

Madara didnt beat the 1st hokage. Anyone who has his dna other than yamato has his face on them. Danzo had it at the top of his arm, madara has it on his chest, and the plant Tobi has underground has it at the base. I think he really used the 1st hokages body to make the tree underground but he said it had no mind of its own. Orochimaru brought the 1st hokage and 2nd hokage back before but you only need a little dna to do that, and even used his dna to put inside 40 kids but yamato was the only one to live. I don’t know if he has the 1st hokage face on him or not but I would think he does some where but then again I dont think so because at the begining of shippuden yamato, sakura, naruto, and the whole team go to a bath house and they never said anything about it or it didnt show up anywhere that I saw. I wonder how the 1st hokage did die? We know how the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th died but I guess he died young because why would the 2nd take over if the 1st was still alive. We know his wife live to be really old so maybe he did like the 3rd and stepped down to let the 4th take over and after the 4th died he took back over again. does anyone know how the 1st hokage died?
- rock lee
  
  The guys with multiple hearts said he killed the first hokage
  - rock lee
    
    Guy*
  - Khbirthbysleep
    
    Actually, he said he fought him, but he didnt kill him. He probably lost the fight

Ddd

and yea pls i want the name of the song at the .. beginning and 2:50

Christopher

Anyone see that the seal on narutos stomach is the same sign on the floor that the sage was standing on. When the nine tails unlocks the seal and the black stuff comes out of naruto during the nagato attack there is a sign or pattern and its the same as the sign they show when their talking about the sage.

Christopher

Some one tell me this please? everyone saying tobi is obito because of their eye technique are the same right? everyone one else who uses sharringan and ms has 2 different techniques right? left eye does one thing and the other does some thing else. So if tobi was obito then why does his eye do the same thing as kakashi? they should be different right> I get why its been said to be shisu because who else would be want to use the genjutsu to control the world then the best genjutsu user in all of the uchiha clan. He said he was nobody also. itachi said shisu was the one who said a true shinobi is one that works from the shadows which he also helped him disappear and they never found his body either just like obito. Danzo and itachi both ended up with one of his eyes plus he knew the 4th hokage and how to get around the village or it could be obitos older brother which would wana kill kakashi for letting his brother die and the 4th wasnt there to save him. but then again tobis right must be his real eye where as the other was covered and only used for izangi makes me think that eye is ms which means its not shisui because he lost both eyes to danzo and itachi and he wanted to protect the village not destroy it like he sent nagato to do. Kagami of obitos older brother is a good idea and also tobi wouldnt be izune or else madara wouldnt be saying stuuf like he just did about his brother dieing and leaveing him his eye because he would know izine (tobi) was alive when they told him about the other madara.

TobiIsObito

Generally I agree with you dude , but I don’t think Tobi is Kagami , I already said that he was a random character and gave quite reasonable explanations for that. I see why some people suspect Kagami, he lived
at the time when Madara did and was part of anbu or whatever so he knew some secret stuff. But I still don’t understand why they insist exactly on him , I mean there way many uchihas out there at that time , so what’s a big deal with Kagami?No offense, but Obito’s older brother theory sucks. Apology to Madara fans, but Tobi is obviously the main villain and I don’t think he will end up being obscure character. He has to be someone known to us or at least an important character. I really want him to be someone I could never guess or at least a new character. If he turns out to be Obito all the fun will be spoiled for me , because I scanned out him really easy.
- Mr. Anagrams
  
  has anyone noticed that Obito and Tobi Both only use the letters O-T-I- and B? Coincidence? I think NOT

Michael Davis

Kabuto is a dragon now and can go the in the snake version of sage mode….

TobiIsObito

Karin is uzumaki as well . lol

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