Naruto Manga Chapter 584

Anshbans89

when is chapter 585 going to be released?

Guest

good question

reginleaf

The opening music for this animated manga chapter is so much better than the current opening for the anime.

TobiIsObito

Everything is better than the current opening of the Anime . It’s the worst they have ever created.

Natutosage

at 2:34 u can see a body to the right that looks just like kabutos new body or whatever

http://www.facebook.com/people/Giovanni-Sanchez/100003309473736 Giovanni Sanchez

To “TobiIsObito” How Would you Feel If It Turns Out That Tobi Isn’t Obito???

TobiIsObito

I would be really glad and surprised, because it was really easy for me to guess that Tobi is Obito and all the fun is kind of spoiled for me.
- http://www.facebook.com/people/Giovanni-Sanchez/100003309473736 Giovanni Sanchez
  
  Cool Cool.:) Hopefully You’re Correct So You Could Rub It In Everyone’s Faces.x)

Rational

TobiIsObito, can you answer why obito is not killed by a massive boulder dominating his face?

theguy

tobi is going to be someone who nobody has thought of yet…don’t you think kishi knows people think it is obito already?
- Thinkinglogical
  
  no….tobi has to be some1 the audience is familiar with…its not obito for sure….if itachi sparred sasuke what’s to say he didn’t spare his father?
  - The real grandison.lamar
    
    i agree!
  - TobiIsObito
    
    It’s not Sasuke’s father looooooool. Tobi attacked the hidden leaf and that time Fugaku was in the village.Everybody would have noticed if he was away. Besides, Tobi also spent some time in hidden mist village. Moreover, Tobi was the mastermind of the Uchiha incident. It was all Tobi and Danzo’s doing. Change your name, you don’t live up to it.
TobiIsObito

Because, there are lot’s of evidences that he survived. Go to Manga 583″best rating” and you will see them.

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So i guess Tobi’s second sharingan, is just 1 he collected after the “Uchiha accident?”

TobiIsObito

You are right.His eyes look different when Tobi stabs Konan. The other glows in different way. Anime creators put a hint that something is wrong with his left eye,implying that it never belonged to Tobi.
- http://profile.yahoo.com/5M5UKU5DDHC5F673WBC3ZFADKI Mikal
  
  nooooo imploying that it’s blind….remember, izinagi!
  - TobiIsObito
    
    No!!! When Danzo used Izanagi there was nothing like that!!!
  - http://profile.yahoo.com/5M5UKU5DDHC5F673WBC3ZFADKI Mikal
    
    thats it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TOBI IS NOT OBITO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i’m fuking mad because 24/7 i have to deal with a little b!tch keeps whining about false sh!t lik tobi is obito when he’s clearly not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am done with you!!!
  - TobiIsObito
    
    Go to Manga 583 “best rating” and read my theory. Moreover, I told you to stop insulting people for their opinion.
    When Tobi is revealed to be Obito, I will start writing essays how retarded you are !
  - Teo
    
    You talk a lot of shit for someone who can only make assumptions for Tobi being Obito. You haven’t proved anything, you just assume.
  - TobiIsObito
    
    No I proved it. Evidences are from Manga and Anime!!!
  - gyuuki
    
    U did prove a Damn thing ur whole basis for him starts with what if ur whole.theory is based on the word if
  - TobiIsObito
    
    NO! When I talk about hints and evidences, I never say “what if”
  - gyuuki
    
    Just because u don’t say it doesn’t mean its still not an if. The whole theory is based on him surviving the boulder. So how ever u want to phrase it, what your really saying is what of obito didn’t die
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    That’s EXACTLY what i said 1 day ago. Nice to see that someone else also comment that every “theory” of TobiIsObito is based on assumptions. If u go down to the comment where he “responds to Nemdygreat”. In our dialog u see I mention that all he does is ASSUME- TobiIsObito doesn’t seem to want to reply to my response when he reffer to his “facts”. Because I see he has made comments, AFTER i responded to him, and thx. to Disqus he has got a message where i have responded to him- but he don’t reply to me;/
- Harish
  
  dude i cannot find your theory about obito being tobi.Can you please repost your theory in this comments section please? thanks.

lifggjf

clicked open tab, then typed narutospot.net to check out comments. then thought i bet TobiIsObito will have a BILLION comments.. what do ya know :O get a life kid

Jiraiya

Kisame is sexy!!! xD

TobiIsObito

It’s kind of irritating that the most of the people who say “get a life” don’t have their own. Yeah, this is reality.

lifggjf

So you’r saying that posting on this site every HOUR is more of a life than mine… hahaha kid don’t make me laugh i don’t even need to use a valid explanation, you post your gay theories every day it is SOO sickening that you have to try and start a debait against everyone. I think you have no friends in real life and you try to seek attention wherever you can get it. sorry kid, I’m only speaking the truth.

TobiIsObito

FEEL THE WRATH OF 4000 WORDS

Don’t start complaining , this is the request of Harish . If you don’t want to see my theory simply skip this.You don’t have to read it. As I said, I am posting this becuase Harish asked me to. Harish, here’s my theory , pal! Unfortunately, nothing will be solved through this debate . As you
see, most of the people don’t agree with us and our opinion has no
influence on them.No matter how good our points are , they still don’t
listen and call us retarteds ,dambass etc.They don’t respect us and
don’t show any appreciation for what we do.They always repeat the same
things,for example:” Obito was a kid when Tobi attacked leaf “. I ‘ve
posted million times that Obito should have been 17 when he attacked
leaf and given an example of Itachi ,who was 13 years old and had an
appearance of a man when he slaughtered his clan. Nothing will change no
matter what we say. However, that doesn’t mean that we won’t enjoy
having interesting and awesome discussion about Tobi’s identity.

I remember someone saying that first point of the argument would be
also the last-Obito died. This the weakest argument I’ever heard. You
can’t prove unless you show me his corpse.We see Obito covered by
boulders, but we don’t see how he dies.We are simply supposed to think
that he was dead that’s all. However , there is one thing we know for
sure, his body was never found.The proof is the ending of NS Ep120,
where Obito’s memorial stone is shown instead of grave.I also remember
people saying that Kakashi was a true friend and he would have retrieved
Obito’s body. Well, if that was the case, then why didn’t Kishi show
us how Kakashi returned the body of his friend ,how village welcomed his
dead hero and how they buried him. It’s not like Kishi to have missed
that kind of opportunity to make epic scenes such the ones I talked
about.The things is, he missed them intentionally. Furthermore, Kakashi
couldn’t have rescued Obito on his own. He wasn’t even able to move one
from his body ,how could he have been able to pick all the boulders?Even
Chidori wouldn’t have hepled him, he can use 4 one per day currently,
so he should have been more limited at that age.Obviously, Minato
was the one who could have resorted to actions and retrieve Obito’s
body. Minato told Kakashi that he knew everything when Kakash opened
his eyes and Minato added that he appeared there at the last moment to
save them.One thing you had to notice was that it was night when Kakashi
regained consciousness ,while it was day-time when he fought random
ninjas, which means Minato was sitting near to Kakashi for 5-6 hours at
least.If he intended to take Obito’s body he would have done it , he
had so many time after all.But he didn’t because he believed that
Obito’s body was completely destroyed and Kakashi felt the same way.
Besides, if Obito had a grave then goggles and flowers wouldn’t have
been put next to the memorial stone, they would have been placed on the
grave. After Naruto defeated Pain, he also made a memorial stone in
honor of his master and put flowers made by Konan next to it.Jiraya’s
body wasn’t found just like Obito’s. So, here is the same case.Obito’s
body was truly never found.Hopefully, this argument is dead forever and
nobody mentions it again.Some people believe that Tobi was the one
who got senju DNA , some say he is madara ,because he says”I am a shell
of former myself” I’ve even heard someone saying that he hates senju
clan .lol . Tobi can’t be Madara or his clone, first he really doesn’t
look like Madara.Second, he should be really old ,but he isn’t .Third,
Originally, Kishi made us think that he was Madara,but after that he
revealed Tobi to be imposter and that’s when the whole mystery
started.You mean he did all this stuff so as to surprise people by
revealing that he is still Madara? That doesn’t make any sense. He truly
isn’t Madara and he admitted that. He used to call himself Madara and
that’s why he said things that Madara was supposed to say. All he said
about himself are true for the real Madara. So it was Madara who got
Senju DNA,not Tobi. Here’s proof ,during Edo tensei Madara and Kabuto’s
conversation , Kabuto mentioned that Madara obtained some of Hashirama’s
powers.The only truth Tobi has said about himself was “I am nobody,
I don’t want to be anybody” when he stopped acting like Madara.
Everything that Tobi said about himself are referred to Madara up to
Manag chapter 559.As for” former shell” thing, he said that after Kages
asked him why he came to them asking for help, Madara Uchiha was a man
who could have fulfilled any kind of plan. Tobi simply made an excuse
why he wasn’t as strong as the real Madara, that’s all!!!Also , some
even say that Tobi met Kisame before the nine-tails attack ,however
there is no single evidence when that happened. All we know he had long
hair at that time, while his hair was short during nine-tails attack and
again they were long when he met Itachi. So, it’s logical to assume
that Tobi met Kisame just after or before the Uchiha incident ,which
happened years after Tobi attacked the village, because he had long hair
both times. The main reason why people don’t believe Tobi to be Obito
is that he was too weak to have done so many things. For your
information, Obito is the member of the most powerful clan in the Naruto
world. Never ever underestimate a single person form this clan. In
fact, that’s why Konan got raped through her boobs , she thought she
could have killed him easilly. Also , Obito wasn’t strong because he
didn’t have sharingan ,but everything changed after he awakened it , he
started to advance really fast .Keep in mind that Uchiha is still Uchiha!!!There
are number of people who don’t believe that Obito could have survived.
They also don’t understand how could he learn so many things. This is
Naruto after all and unexpected things do happen here.Come on guys, if
these things were obvious , the show wouldn’t be interesting, would it?
It may be incredible for you , but there are some ways how could things
have happened. Obito could have read everything on Uchiha stone tablet
and it’s highly likely to be the case. When Tobi talked with Kages about
his plan he mentioned that the secrets on Uchiha stone can be read by
sharingan , Mangeyo sharingan and rinnegan and after that Mizukage
suggested that Tobi knew everything ,because he possessed Mangekyo
sharingan and there was also Akatsuki member with rinnegan. Apparently ,
Tobi made Nagato read things on that stone. Furthermore, there can be
other ways too. Here’s my version how things may have happened.

When Tobi told Konan about Izanagi , he pointed out that the jutsu
was a practical application of the sage’s Creation Of All Things
.Thanks to the jutsu the sage was able to create things. Just simply
remember this.Now let’s switch to the epic fight between Madara
Uchiha and Hashirama senju. We all know that Madara was able to acquire
some of hashirama’s powers and he also unlocked rinnegan before he
died. Madara could have performed the sage’s Creation Of All Things
after awakening the rinnegan. He could have fused some Hashirama’s DNA
with his own one in order to create Zetsu. He truly looks like creation
of Izanagi or whatever. We know that the white part of zetsu has
Hashirama’s DNA, so probably, the other one has Madara’s one.This also
explains double personality. I believe the power of the shadow style and
the power of the light style,which are part of the jutsu, have
something to do with Zetsu’s body color (black and white) Consequently,
Madara left Zetsu after he died. The place where Obito was supposed to
die is located in the village hidden in grass and that’s exactly the
same village where Zetsu comes from. Zetsu also can sense chakra at
long distances. He is even revealed to be cannibal , he devours dead
bodies of Sasori’s subordinates. Maybe, Zetsu sensed Obito’s chakra and
learnt that he was dying and headed towards him to devour his body as
well.However, he changed his mind after discovering that it was Uchiha,
Madara’s clansman. Hashirama was so skilled at healing that he didn’t
need hand signs, so should be Zetsu’s white part ,which is made of the
first Hokage’s DNA. After saving his life Zetsu told everything Obito ,
including how to get Mangekyo sharingan and Madara’s plan. It also
explains why Tobi was teamed up with zetsu when he appeared at first.
See, even someone like me was able to come up with story how could have
Obito survived and that’s only me.No doubt that Kishi is more genius
than me and he can make up even better one.

I understand why you choose characters like Izuna,Kagami , they fit
into the timeline.However, timeline is already messed up, Madara knows
Nagato ,who was born many years after his death. Maybe he knows Obito in
the same way. So, Tobi doesn’t have to be someone who lived at the time
when Madara did. In fact , if he lived at that time ,he would be older
than tsuchikage . LOL, this post was supposed in response to Akstuki, but I still discussed things other people replied to me. OK, I will tell you know y Obito, not any other character. There isn’t a single fan who doesn’t know about Obito.He
is truly an important character ,what can’t be said about characters
like Izuna,Kagami… Let’s face it guys, they are random characters
whose screen time last up to 10 seconds. There wasn’t any character
development, so even can’t call them characters.We don’t know their
personalities, beliefs etc. We don’t know much about them.They may have
some kind of connection with the storyline ,but they don’t have one with
the main idea of the show, that’s for sure.As I’ve said several
times 80-90% fans are kids ,who don’t care about random character, they
even forget some important ones. It’s really less likely that Kishi will
choose someone who isn’t well known to them.The scene where Tobi
removes his mask will be total failure if most of the fun won’t
recognize Tobi. Tobi has to be both someone very well known and the
least expected character, so that everybody will be surprised when he
takes off his mask. Obito is the best candidate. Everyone knows him and
nobody expects him to be the main villain.The fact that nobody agrees
with me also proves that. 1.Izuna turns out to be Tobi. Again
most of the fans won’t recognize him and they won’t express much
reaction. They may take some interest in how things happened ,but it
won’t be really interesting, his motives are obvious.He gave his eyes to
Madara. He is simply loyal brother. Some people may get disappointed
,because nobody holds feelings for Izuna.

2. Obito turns out to be Tobi.Everybody will be astounded…they
will be at a loss for words…it will also give birth to millions of
questions:how Obito knew madara, how he survived, how he got so
strong…people will become more interested than they are now in Tobi’s
identity.Nobody will show negative reaction, because everyone loves
Obito.

This is kind of simulation, how things will look based on Kishi’s
actions.See, Obito is more promising , there is truly much more point in
choosing him as the main villain than a random character.

Akastuki , you need evidences why Tobi is Obito. Well, you could
have found them in Manga and Anime like I did ,because it’s really easy
thing to do, because they are a lot.

I will start with hair style and face features, because these are
the most obvious evidences.Refer to Manga chaptesr 509-510.You can’t
deny that he really resembles Obito. The second evidence is that he has
only one sharingan. In fact, Kakashi and Tobi have sharingans in the
opposite eyes , just as Kakashi and Obito should have. Also Tobi’s
ocular power is the same as Kakashi’s. For some reasons, Kakashi’s
kamui doesn’t work on him. We know that Obito got crushed by boulders
and something is wrong with Tobi too. His arms start melting whenever he
gets injured. His whole body is bandaged in Kisame’s flashback, he also
has only right sharingan in the flashback and it’s confirmed by
Kisame”that eye …shining in the darkness”.He didn’t wear any mask
at that time, because when he started stepping out of darkness he didn’t
start removing his mask and after some time we see both of his hands
and he doesn’t hold mask in his hand too.Kisame recognizes him in the
episode 142 when Tobi takes off his mask, which proves that Tobi didn’t
wear any mask when he met Kisame. He also has bandage on his forehead
he fights Konan, why does he need it unless it was damaged by a
boulder? Thanks to zetsu fusion he possesses power of the six paths.We
saw some white zetsu stuff coming out of his arm when he fought Danzo’s
guards,which also suggests that something is really wrong with his arms.

As you see there are quite a few evidences/hints why Tobi is Obito. Obito was getting too obvious and that’s why Kishi did something
really unexpected in manga 509-510. When I saw Tobi with broken mask ,
I got really angry with Kishi , because he showed parts of his face
,which were similar to Obito’s one. I really didn’t understand why he
made Obito so obvious , I kind of felt disappointed . However, after
that something happened that made me change my mind .I was like “Kishi, Kishi , you are a true genious in the real sense of this word” It was scene where Tobi was revealed to havecomplete
set (2) of sharingans. He made Obito the most obvious and at the same
time the least obvious candidate for Tobi’s identity, that’s why Kishi
is such a genius. Kishi used that trick to make Obito less obvious and
lot’s people were fooled by that. As far as I know, I am the only one
who could see through it. If you still wonder what I am talking about,
then pay attention to every single world I will say from this point
forward. It was confirmed by Kisame that Tobi used to have only single
sharingan , so you may want to ask how come he has 2 when he fights
Konan. When Tobi met Danzo he said that they hadn’t met each other since
the Uchiha incident and Tobi was even revealed to have collection of
sharingans. So. the answer is that the other eye belonged to a dead
member of the Uchiha clan.Think logically, if both of the eyes had been
his own instead of wasting time on breaking the mask he would have used
Izanagi with the right sharingan and he could have broken his mask
after that for surprise attack.He was on the verge of death and he truly
didn’t have much time.He purposefully sacrificed an ordinary sharingan
so as to keep his own one with unique abilities.The fact that he still keeps it after collecting rinnegan also proves that it’s really his own. After I guessed the mystery behind 2 sharingans I was convinced that Tobi was truly Obito.The
words he says about himself “I am nobody , I don’t want to be anybody”
mean that he is unknown and insignificant ninja in shinobi history like
Obito. “the world is completely worthless, there is nothing left in but
misery”this line also suggest that Tobi used to be good boy (lol) and
he changed because of great pain just like Nagato.

Some people don’t take Obito seriosuly. I know a lot of them who
think that he wasn’t important character. They are greatly mistaken.
Everyone remembers Obito as the boy who gave a sharingan to kakashi,bot
nobody does that he gave kakashi something more valuable than sharingan-
a lesson that a friend is the most precious thing one can ever have .Friendship
is obviously the main idea of the show and that’s why Naruto keeps
chasing after Sasuke about 3/4 of the show. Obito was the one who
pronounced the main idea and his lesson has been passed down to
generations. He is also connected with Naruto. Obito said that one must
never abandon his friend and that’s what Naruto does, he never ever
gives up on Sasuke. In conclusion , Obito is one of the most important
character who is connected with both the main hero and the main idea.
That’s one more reason for Kishi to choose Obito as the main villain ,
it will be really epic.(It is really epic, to be precise )

I am kind of busy , so probably I won’t able to reply back to your
Izuna theory that’s why I will post why Izuna can’t be Tobi here.

Izuna Uchiha isn’t really an important character , if he was, Kishi would have provided us with his character development. Furthermore,
the theory itself has lots of flaws too. He is said to be dead and we
even saw him in the coffin. Even if he didn’t die he was still blind and
therefore he couldn’t have done anything. He couldn’t see anything,
while everybody must have seen him if he was alive. There should have
been at least 1 chakra-sensing ninja in hidden leaf and he/she truly
would have sensed Izuna if he was alive.It’s really ridiculous how some
think that Izuna left the village without anyone noticing him and went
to the final valley. Blind people have really serious problem with
walking ,they have to touch things in order to understand which way to
go. Izuna would have had the same problems too .How a blind person would
have been able to steal someone’s eyes? How pathetic Uchiha should be
to have eyes stolen by a blind person? Ok, if blind Izuna miraculously
killed Uchiha ,then why he transplanted only a single sharingan?We all
know that Tobi has only 1 eye. That doesn’t make sense. Also how could
he have managed to get so injured as Tobi is? Moreover, Izuna doesn’t
look like Tobi at all. refer to manga chaptesr 509-510 again. No
matter how hard you try there is no way that you will find resemblance
between those two. He also couldn’t have survived so long , he should be
dead right now or at least very old, even older than tsuchikage.
However, Tobi doesn’t look like someone who is 105 years old
.Besides,when Tobi used to act like Madara, he told Sasuke that he
respected Hashirama senju the most , while the real Madara doesn’t show
any respect to Hashirama , he calls Senjus ugly and express his hatred
towards that clan, which also proves that Tobi doesn’t know real Madara
and his personality well, that’s why he can’t be Madara’s relative or
someone very close to him. In addition Tobi says” the world is
completely worthless , there is nothing left in but misery” , which
reveals why he wants to put the whole world under genjutsu. How could
have Izuna experienced such painful things? I mean, he and Madara used
to rape everyone on the battlefield. Moreover, he killed his best friend
to gain more power, he is as heartless as Madara , there is no way he
would have said words like this. Furthermore, Madara knows who Tobi is
and at the same time he says that his brother is dead.It wouldn’t make
any sense if Izuna was alive. Some people think that Kishi did it to
make Izuna less obvious. However, Kishi never intended Izuna to be a
candidate for Tobi’s identity , because he never put any hint to make us
suspect him. So, what’s the point of making someone less obvious if he
isn’t even supposed to be obvious. Again ” I am nobody, I don’t want to
be anybody” .The brother of Madara Uchiha wouldn’t ever said something
like that about himself, he used to be nearly ass powerful as his
brother before Madara took his eyes. When Naruto threatens to break his
mask he says”if you really want to see what’s under my mask” and he
starts removing it , which he has nothing to hide anymore and he is
really willing to reveal his identity. If he was Izuna, he would have
said” Ok . I may not be Madara, but I am his brother , so don’t
underestimate me!!!” Why didn’t he say who he was if he was going to
remove his mask anyway? Because, he is Obito Uchiha and his name had no
significance that’s why he doesn’t say his name and instead he started
taking off mask so as to show his face. As you see, there are lot’s of
things that contradict to Izuna theory, I hope you will give me
reasonable explanations. Again forget about how character fits into
timeline, Madara knows nagato who was born many years after his death
and he can also know Obito in the same way. Here’s some kind of trick
and I really suspect it has something to do with time manipulation. However , if you really want to prove all my examples to be false , just as you said , then please give me answers to all of the following questions:

How could Izuna have survived so long? Why doesn’t he look older than Tsuchikage?Why doesn’t he look like Tobi at all?How
was he able to obtain sharingan? Why did he implant only a single eye?
Why does Tobi have bandages on his body when he meets Kisame? Why does
he have bandages also on his forehead when he fights with Konan? Why
does his limbs start melting whenever he gets injured?Why do Tobi and
Kakashi have sharingans in the opposite eyes like Kakashi and Obito? Why
are their ocular abilities so similar? Why doesn’t kakashi’s kamui work
on Tobi? Why does Tobi have the same face features and hair style as
Obito? Kakashi’s gaiden was supposed to be the first episodes of
shippuden, however they released just some episodes before Tobi calls
himself Madara. Why did they do that? Why Kishi persistently keeps
secret how Kakashi got his Mangekyo? Why doesn’t he reveal Tobi’s one ?

If you really want to convince/impress me don’t miss a single
question , answer all of them. Of course, the answer should be
reasonable ones strengthened by evidences/proofs from anime/Manga.

P.S. Hopefully, you don’t regret challenging me . .I have a request
, don’t reply to me , simply post a comment and add “in response to
TobiIsObito” . I am looking forward to hearing your answer . Good Luck

GUYS THUMBS UPS SO THAT EVERYBODY WILL BE ABLE TO SHARE THEIR OPINION WITH ME :):)

Harish

Thanks pal.
Harish

Seconded.i am convinced.Btw you should be quite a nerd given you have so deep studying of naruto manga and anime.
- TobiIsObito
  
  I am not nerd. I just learn and memorize things really easy. I am the best in my class
  - TobiIsObito
    
    But I will admit that to a certain degree I am a nerd.
Narutoepisode 584

Do u want to know what would be more epic than that speech?????
If tobi pulls off his mask and its not Obito. hehehe
Not disrepecting u im not convinced who tobi is. I dnt beleive its madara or obito. But someone else we know!!!
- TobiIsObito
  
  Seriosuly, dude who else do we know? If you are referring Shisui and the elder son , both of the theories are dead. I can even kill them right now , if you want.
Akastuki

looks familiar haha
Uchiha_Avenger

NIgga i only read till it said “show more” i aint got the time for your bullshit.

gound

i have question to all the obito is tobi fans, could you plz find all the pages were tobis arm is falling of, not gona say it didnt because i saw that too but i came to think that wasent it the wrong arm that feel of when he was fighting minato or if it was me that remember wrong, so i want to see for my self but i cant find the page, so can you tell me page and all the other stuff

thecrows2332

Its the left arm that melts right?
- gound
  
  yea that is what i was thinking but arent it the right arm that got crushed? that is something that needs more investgation, hey TobiIsObito could you help here too
gound

it is tobi’s left arm that melts of when he fights minato, you can see that in manga nr. 503 on page 3th i think it is, after tobi is hit my the flying thunder god lvl 2
- gound
  
  and in manga 243 you see that obitos right side is under the rock, so why was it is left arm that was melting when he was fighting minato? that is ofcause if obito really is tobi, but i dont think he is, but maybe you obito is tobi fans can tell me why it was his left arm that as melting or falling off
TobiIsObito

Obito’s right side was crushed at first. After that the same thing happened to the left side too. Watch 120 episode. His left side got covered by boulders too. BTW When his arm started melting there was no bone, which proves that his limb has been crushed in the past. There is no need for deep investigation, while a simple answer can solve everything.
- TobiIsObito
  
  was crushed *
- gound
  
  ahhh see there you sure do have a get away XD but i dont give much for that bone thing and that thing about that tobi have zetsu in him, might be but whyy cant it be something els, like that water dude that was with sauske, he can be water, and kimimaro can controle his bones, so all that shit with that he dosent have any bones so that means he got his limbs crushed and replaced dosent seem like that means anything to me
  - TobiIsObito
    
    It’s really Zetsu. Watch the episode when Tobi fights with Danzo’s guards. If Tobi wasn’t fused with Zetsu , then he couldn’t have used Izanagi. That jutsu needs Senju DNA and we all know that Zetsu’s white part contains Senju cells.
  - Unknown
    
    Ok so I’m for the ‘Zetsu fusion theory’ but what would be Obito’s motive to turn evil and start another war?
  - gound
    
    well that is tru but why dos it have to be zetsu? it you cant confirm that and it could be something els that remeinds of zetsu but well that is just as posible as that it could be a zetsu but we cant confirm anything just yet
  - TobiIsObito
    
    Dude it’s highly likely. I told you, if Tobi wasn’t fused with Zetsu, then wouldn’t have seen Tobi use Izanagi. The forbidden jutsu needs Senju DNA. The white stuff was truly like Zetsu. That dude is able to copy chakra and transform himself in anybody he wants. So, Zetsu could have transformed his arm into Tobi’s one. However, that’s a fake one . It only looks like an arm , but it’s not solid as the real one.
- Harish
  
  ok,how does white zetsu contain hashirama’s dna?please tell about his character cause i am just getting started with naruto.
  - TobiIsObito
    
    It’s still mystery in the anime, but it has been confirmed. I have a theory about his identity too. I think he was created by Madara using the sage’s Creation Of All Things. We know that Madara obtained Hashirama’s DNA at the valley of end , so he fused some of it with his cells and we got Zetsu. The black part is made of Madara’s cells , while the white is made of Hashirama’s one. However, this is my thought , but kind of makes sense (hopefully).

TobiIsObito

To people who ask Obito’s motive.

The motive of the main villain shouldn’t be obvious , otherwise it wouldn’t be interesting.We will learn why Tobi wants to carry out his plan , when we get to see his flashbacks(This is fashion in Naruto. We typically learn things about villains from their flashbacks) I think Obito experienced something bad after he was rescued. Probably the people who saved him died in his presence . IDK, there are so many things that can motivate one to become evil. Take an example of Nagato Uzumaki, he was truly better person than Obito, he was kind and he even used to cry more often than Obito:D However, pain of losing people dear to him made him become Pain. He killed his sensei without holding any feelings towards Jiraya . He felt neither hate nor love. He killed pervy sage, because the letter one was intruder. As I said, people completely change in this show, so Obito becoming evil shouldn’t be surprising for you. Believe it or not, Tobi and Obito have nearly the same kind of personality and I can prove you this.

Obito said ” if that’s being a true shinobi …then I will crush idea of shinobi”. He went against all the rules and regulations to save his friend. He went against the whole ninja world. Here are Tobi’s words ” the world is completely worthless , there is nothing left in but misery” As you see, Tobi is also unsatisfied with the order of the world just as Obito. Both of them have the same kind of rebellious soul and both of them hold grudge against the ninja system.

Here’s something interesting I’ve just remembered. In episode 152 Tobi says following words about Sasuke:
“When a man learns to love, he must bear the risk of hatred.” How come someone like Tobi has such experience if he hasn’t lost his loved one? We still don’t know whatever happened to Rin. I mean , we know that she is dead , but
we definitely don’t know when she died, how she died and who witnessed her death. Just keep this in mind.

Even if you disagree with me, I hope you enjoyed reading my post at least. :):)

gound

i have question for you, do you like your own texts? sinse you always have one like right away XD
- TobiIsObito
  
  Why do I have to like my own text? I thought it was you :d . I want to know who liked my text and why did he/she do it. To person who liked my text: Do you agree with me or simply enjoyed reading the post? It’s really important to me. I want to know if I have followers
  - DrSnakes
    
    It was me . I agree with you !
  - gound
    
    i dont know, i was just thinking that you could XD but why dont you make a disqus account, there you can see iff there is ppl that follow you or if they just like your one time texts, i had one following me XD but that person is gone now XD ha ha http://disqus.com/register
Unknown

Thanks, I look forward to hearing more of your theories
Christopher

Tobi said Naruto bee and kakashi and guy have things of his and he is going to take all of them. He could mean the 9 tails and 8 tails plus his eye that kakashi has too. Why not just say the tailed beast? Why say they have things of his but not say what. We know he wants kakashis eye from obito because it is one of the strongest sharringans like shisui. I always thought Tobi was Obitos older brother who kakashi said was so strong but it could be Obito.

gound

to ppl that is here a lot of their time and know that they will still use time here why dont you make and disqus account, that way it will be way more easy to find and reply ppl, and it gets alot harder for other ppl to steal an other persons name

Nemdgreat

i like to think that orochimaru regenerates whenever he was wounded and woo.. another orochimaru comes out of his mouth. and when he got stabbed into half all fucking snakes came up to make up for that. but why when he got his hands severed by itachi, no fucking snakes connected. and he never come out of his body. the same goes when he still fight against the third hokage. why does he did not come out of his body when his hands got the curse seal? at first i think he cannot form a hand seal but when i watch naruto vs orochimaru, he never form a hand seal to regenerate himself.
CRAP….

Alrokako

thats because he was under tsukiyomi at the time dude there was nothing he could do against itachi
SharinganBattle

well for 1 that jutsu uses alot of chakra, so maybe he couldnt use it at the time. same for sasuke when he faught itachi
- Kyuubirage
  
  sasuke did used the cursed seal against itachi it just wasnt strong enough

Nemdgreat

HIDAN – it is a pity he is not resurrected (he is actually incapacitated). i mean i love Hidan’s way of thinking, he is disrespectful, brutal, and loves killing. often making his opponents death as painful as possible. a very sadistic way, but he is still not at peak of his evilness cause he still respect Jashin. He should have killed as many as possible, disrespect anyone even his god, he have to awaken the basest passion of destruction and killing. THE PASSION OF DESTRUCTION IS A CREATIVE PASSION.

Uchiha_Avenger

Hidan was the man to bad shikimaru is smart.

Melissuh

Ima laugh when Tobi is revealed and hes a random guy and all the people who think he is Obito will be like -______-

TobiIsObito

You have no idea what I will do when Tobi is revealed to be Obito. (Devil) xD

TheoriesAreTheories.Simple

Seriously enough about this Tobi is Obito shit. People (TobiIsObito) are ruining the experience.

Yeah its o.k to write your theories but arguing with other people and trying to demean their own theories is selfish and annoying.I wish to GOD you would STOP fucking posting the SAME theory on EVERY manga chapter. We get it Tobi COULD be Obito. OK great, fucking fantastic, STFU now, Thank YOU.

TobiIsObito

Dude, I’ve already told you that you never have to read my fuking theories. SKIP THEM!!!!!!!! There some people
who look forward to seeing my comments and I post things for them. I posted the theory , because someone asked me.
- i_BaTisTa_i
  
  why do u ignore my replies? (i know why of course) Why do u not give a reply to where i explained that all ur “evidence” are assumptions and u say one thing-then say the exact opposite and that u don’t make sense:(
  
  “P.S. I hope u don’t regret challenging me.” HAHA- still can’t believe how arrogant u are/were. “Admit defeat and keep ur dignity”, mkay?
  - TobiIsObito
    
    What are you talking about? You said that you would post your theory or whatever it is when the next manga came out. I haven’t seen any reply from you except for this one.
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    when u wrote:
    ” Assume? are you kidding me? Go to Manga 583 “best rating” and you will see my facts”,
    check out my reply. (btw- by Disqus u would have got a message of my reply-so I’m pretty
    confident that u already knew i had replied to ur comments where u try to prove me wrong).
    So please read, and give me a response.
lifggjf

I agree I usually look forward to funny conversations or weird assumptions people have, (TobiIsObito) honestly your self fish and ever since your tobi theories showed up the comments just turned gay, let other people have their OWN opinions with out your input. at least for a couple days and stop ranting on about Tobi. then maybe youll lose some haters
- Uchiha_Avenger
  
  Is it that hard to scroll up and just skipping his comment?lmao fking lazy bum.

TobiIsObito

THE FOLLOWING COMMENT WILL FINALLY DESTROY THE MYTH ABOUT TOBI BEING OLD.

Up to a point this is a spoiler ,so don’t read it , if you don’t want. I am sorry for not posting bullshit things. Next time I will do my best.

We have seen wrinkles on Tobi’s right side of the face so far. That’s exactly the same part of Obito’s face which was crushed by boulders. Kishi didn’t show us the left side when Tobi revealed to have the second sharingan. For some reasons, Kishi put a shadow on that part of the face. However, there is still proof in the manga that Tobi doesn’t have wrinkles . Go to Manga 486 ,page 5 and look at Tobi’s left side of face. There are no wrinkles ,there isn’t even a little sign of them. He also looks undeniably young. So, the purpose of “wrinkles” were to make us think that Tobi was old Madara.This is one more proof why Tobi is Obito. He has damaged face just like Obito. Moreover, on the picture where Tobi sticks newly made arm to his body , we see exactly the same plants that are around Zetsu, which means that Zetsu fusion theory is also confirmed !

One more time, I am really sorry for making sense.

Uchiha_Avenger

Good shit i also have a feeling its obito.
i_BaTisTa_i

”One more time, I am really sorry for making sense.” LOL. Do u even eat ur own crap? U are so arrogant.

Listen: If Kishi showed us the left side when Tobi revealed his 2nd Sharingan- then he’s identity would have been known! Kishi SHADOWED THE LEFT SIDE TO MAKE THE SHARINGAN STAND OUT- It’s an effect to make everyone get the “OH SHIT”-factor when seeing his 2nd Sharingan- NOT to hide his wrinkles. That Zetsu-part has been known for a LONG time- that doesn’t make the Obito-theory more likely.
- TobiIsObito
  
  Did you check manga 486? There are no wrinkles!!! Besides , how do you know that Kishi put shadow to make the sharingan stand out? We aren’t retarded, we could have noticed the other sharingan without any kind of shadows or whatever it is.
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    U are so NAIVE. “we could have noticed the other sharingan without any kind of shadows or whatever it is.” Really? So u don’t think Kishi tried to make that moment special? If they didn’t use shadow over the left side, then the identity would be REVEALED- SO HE HAD TO use shadows anyways. And, that pic u are reffering to, only shows the cheek of his face. The wrinkles that we have seen, are around his left eye, and to the nose(mid. of his face). We have no pic that proves his right cheek are wrinkled.
    
    Let me ask u this: would it make sense if Kishi put light over the left part of the face when he showed the left Sharingan? (AKA revealed his identity)? Does this to u: mean that he’s “hiding” that “non-wrinkled” face u’re imagining?
    
    BTW: why do u still “ignore” my reply where I put ur flaw”less” theories to the test?
    (we both know why)
  - TobiIsObito
    
    You can still see the most of the left part and he really looks young. That’s something you can’t deny. You were right, Kishi put shadow to conceal Tobi’s identity. If he hadn’t done it then we would have seen Tobi’s clean face (without wrinkles) ,which would have resulted in ruined mystery .
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    ”If he hadn’t done it then we would have seen Tobi’s clean face (without wrinkles)…” THAT IS THE POINT- U DON’T KNOW IF THERE ARE WRINKLES OR NOT. The clean cheek-NP-The mid of his face in the shadows-U CAN’T PROVE SHIT there. So if he’s left cheek is clean? Nothing proves that his right CHEEK is clean aswell?
    
    BTW: still ignoring my reply about ur FLAWfull theory (I WONDER WHY…?) Still trying to counter my reply, but can’t find any good arguments?
    “P.S. Hope u don’t regret challenging me” I STILL CAN’T STOP LAUGHING, THAT U SAID THAT TO A GUY WHO HAD HIS OWN THEORY- Time to eat ur OWN WORDS – (But u won’t cus u won’t admit that i got all the good points in that comment, and u can’t prove my points wrong)
    
    Gg?
  - TobiIsObito
    
    You don’t know if there are wrinkles or not either!!!
  - gyuuki
    
    Hes not claiming tobi is anybody tho u r. Hes just saying its not obito
  - TobiIsObito
    
    He used to claim that it’s Izuna and there is still possibility that he will continue doing it.
  - Christopher
    
    When Tobi gets the 9 tails from narutos mother he said he had been waiting a very long time for that. So he must have been older than Obito or he wouldnt have been waiting long.
  - TobiIsObito
    
    He had been waiting for 4 years. For most of the Naruto fans even 1 week is too long to wait for new Manga/Anime. So, it depends!!!

Nemdgreat

why some people here change their name and respond to their own comments, and those freaking jerks keep praising their own comments. and the worst thing they keep liking it. don’t they know that people who read it know that they are the same person with different names?
their way of writing it is just the same even they have different names, very obvious for the one who stayed in this site for too long..

Uchiha_Avenger

For all you idiots/anooying fkers out there everyone has the right to write their theories if you don’t like it its simple stfu.

Tobi

I am so going to Enjoy when they reveal the Tobi is NOT Obito and I am going to make a Poop Paste and rub it on the faces of people who say TOBIisObito. fkrs

SAGE

IS IT ME OR IS NARUTO STARTING TO LOOK AS IF HE IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT GENERATION OF THE 6 PATHS OF SAGE OR WHATEVER……… CAUSE HE (THE LAST SAGE) DID TELL ALL THE TAIL BEAST THAT THEY WOULD SEE ANOTHER WHO WOULD COME TO THEM WHO WOULD TRY TO SAVE THEM OR WHATEVER….. NOT MENTIONING OPENLY TO US THAT, THAT PERSON WOULD BECOME THE NEXT SAGE… JUST MY THOUGHTS

Uchiha_Avenger

Glad you catchin on.

TobiIsObito

In response to i_BaTisTa_i I’ve read your reply and I must say you put forward interesting points. Cool , really cool bro. You are really good . I admit that you impressed me .You were really special. When I finished reading your comment , I was like : ” WHAT THE HELL DID I READ? ” 80% of content was copied from my theory. Really? Do you truly think that makes sense? You completely misunderstood what I posted. Do you do well at school? Are you good at critical reading? I am asking these questions, because your comment was really retarded.(no offense) . Sorry dude, but you have the worst argument. You aren’t as good as LynkGanan and Akastuki. You should have found evidence in Manga/Anime to prove that Tobi isn’t Obito instead of copying my words and criticizing me. Your argument isn’t supported by facts.That’s why it was too weak. I will do the same thing. I will copy your words and start criticizing you .
i_BaTisTa_i
This is quote of that list of “facts” u got:”1.
Izuna turns out to be Tobi…” Here u say that Izuna GAVE his eyes to
Madara. Seriously, GAVE? MADARA TOOK THEM. LOL. Can’t believe someone
actually thought Izuna GAVE Madara his eyes, and that he is(in ur words)
“a loyal brother”.

You accused me of bending facts to my advantage , but it’s you who does it.In fact, Madara never took his brother’s eyes by force. Izuna gave them!!! Itachi lied to Sasuke that Madara stole his brother’s eyes in order to make him hate Madara. However , both Tobi and Madara confirmed that Izuna gave Madara his eyes. Here’s what Madara says “after my brother died , he left me only his eyes and their power” .Besides, if Izuna isn’t loyal brother , then he definitely CANT’ BE Tobi. Moreover, there are lots of proofs why Izuna can’t be the man behind the mask. Manga 583 “best rating” read the comment again.

Dude, Obito is really important character. He pronounced the main idea of the show. I also said that Naruto is embodiment of his words by never ever giving up on Sasuke.That’s how Obito is connected with the main hero. Friendship is truly main idea of the Anime, that’s the reason why
they show Naruto and Sasuke’s relationship in every opening. As I said before, if Obito is not important character then Izuna, Kagami, the elder son… aren’t even characters of the show. There was no character development for them.

BTW, IZUNA’s name isn’t EVEN mentioned in either Anime or Manga.(I checked) It’s simply a fan made name loool
KIshimoto doesn’t care so much about Madara’s brother that he even didn’t name him .
2 episodes were enough for all of us to remember Obito forever. Ask whoever you want, everyone considers 119-120 eps as one of the best in Shippuden. SO, yeah Obito is really important character to fans unlike the rest(Izuna,Kagami,shisui)

“On ur answer to Akastuki of why Izuna can’t be Tobi, u say: “Even if he
didn’t die he was still blind and therefore he couldn’t have done
anything. U don’t connect Obito to be blind IF he survived the boulders?
His Right Eye: CRUSHED (HIS RIGHT SIDE OF THE BODY WAS CRUSHED OF A
1000LB HEAVY ROCK), his Left Eye:ehm- Kakashi. So…Obito wouldn’t be
useless IF(!!) he survived, and half of his body crushed, and was blind?
Again u’re saying one thing- and also saying the excact OPPOSITE. U
BEND different facts to disadvantage of a character in the same
situation, but bend it to the advantage of Obito (ex. blindness of both
Obito and Izuna)”

Dude, I have news for you . It was confirmed in the Manga that Madara took Izuna’s eyes (both of them) and Izuna’s death is also verified by Madara, while Obito’s death isn’t certified and you definitely can’t prove whether his right eye was crushed or not. There is big difference between the fact I gave you and your assumption .

”Why do u in some statements point out arguments as in if Tobi only had 1
Sharingan- then point out other arguments of Tobi having 2 Sharingans.
(U mention: “Ok, if blind Izuna miraculously killed Uchiha, then why he
transplanted ONLY ONE SHARINGAN?We all know that Tobi has only 1 eye.”
WTF?? – U KNOW, I KNOW, EVERYONE KNOW TOBI HAS 2 EYES. Why do u try and
make the Izuna-theory stupid cus “why would he only transplant only 1
eye, CUS WE KNOW TOBI ONLY HAS “. U SAID THIS. WTF? U got toooooo many
flaws in ur arguments, and u bend ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING.”

Seriously??? I started laughing when I read this. You really didn’t understand why I said that Tobi had only 1 sharingan and after that mentioned him having 2??? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
I said that Tobi has got only one sharingan and the scene when he was revealed to have two was shown to make Obito less obvious. Tobi having 2 sharingan was one of the main facts against my theory and I had to explain it. That’s why I talked about it . I even proved that the other eye belonged to the dead member of the Uchiha clan and that’s the reason why I claim Tobi to have only 1 eye. Read the part where I talk about this in my previous post , please.

“Obito turns out to be Tobi. Everybody will be astouned…loss for words
etc.” This show how much u only praise urself. If Kishi made us all to
believe Tobi to be Obito by giving lots of hints, why would EVERYBODY BE
ASTOUNDED/LOSS FOR WORDS?. It wouldn’t be a shocker at all- cus even a
4-year old would add the left eye of
the mask+the hair style and make
a conclusion that Tobi most possibly is Obito. U SAY IT URSELF: “The
hair style and face features are THE MOST OBVIOUS EVIDENCE”. U ARE
SAYING ONE THING- THEN SAYING THE OPPOSITE.”

You didn’t understand anything again. Kishi made us believe that Obito died, that’s why most of the people don’t expect him to be Tobi. Go anywhere and say that Tobi is Obito , everyone will attack you saying that Obito is dead. Kishi started throwing out some hints and when Obito got a little bit obvious he used that 2 sharingan trick to keep the mystery , that’s all! I do say that the hair style and face features are the most obvious evidences, but I didn’t say that Obito is the most obvious , did I? When I said that hair style and face features were the most obvious evidences ,
I CLEARLY MEANT THAT THESE WERE THE EVIDENCES YOU COULD COME UP WITH RIGHT AWAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT TOBI. God damn!!! Even my little brother doesn’t need so much detailed explanation. What’s wrong with you???

“U BEND ALL FACTS to try and make it all relate to that Tobi is Obito.
First u say making him the most obvious candidate for Tobi- is making
him as less obvious as possible. Then u say that u were disappointed cus
Kishi showed a part of Tobi’s face, and that made it “TOO OBVIOUS” that
Tobi is Obito. HOW CAN U SAY THAT, AND STILL SAY HE MADE HIM AS LESS
OBVIOUS AS POSSIBLE?!? Showing us that he has 2 Sharingans is the
turningpoint – and not a bluff to make Kishi (in ur words) “genius”. ”

I said that Kishi put some Obito hints , but after that he put antiObito hints too. Damn, didn’t you understand what I meant when I said that Kishi made Obito the most obvious and the least obvious at the same time? You have serious problems. I said Kishi threw some hints that Tobi is Obito(Bandages&face features) and he also put “proof”(2 sharingans) why Tobi can’t be Obito at the same time. That’s the reason why I said that.The 2 sharingans were supposed to kill Obito theory forever. That’s how Kishi made Obito as less obvious as possible!!!
DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN EVERYTHING WORD BY WORD? ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!! Don’t you ever read books? I think you don’t ,
because your reading skills TOTALLY SUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

”P.S. Hopefully, you don’t regret challenging me.” U ARE SO ARROGANT
IT’S RIDICILOUS. That is why I said u got ur head so high into ur own
ass it’s tragic ”

”Hopefully, you don’t regret challenging me” I said this because I wrote theory of 4000 words and it was obviously
a J O K E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You call me arrogant while you say   ” why do u ignore my replies? (i know why of course) Why do u not
give a reply to where i explained that all ur “evidence” are assumptions
and u say one thing-then say the exact opposite and that u don’t make
sense:(   BTW: why do u still “ignore” my reply where I put ur flaw”less” theories to the test?
(we both know why)    BTW: still ignoring my reply about ur FLAWfull theory (I WONDER WHY…?)
Still trying to counter my reply, but can’t find any good arguments? Time to eat ur OWN WORDS ”

REALLY? This is the worst argument I’ve ever read , there are no proofs , but failures of your brain and you still think that you came up with better argument than intelligent people like LynkGanan and Akastuki? Do you truly think that you surpassed everyone who tried to ruin my theory and you are the only one who managed to do that? You have so high opinion about yourself. Damn dude, YOU ARE SO ARROGANT !!!

To summarize, your response was nothing but depiction how your brain works. I even don’t know why I wasted my time on reading and replying to you . There was no need to beat your argument , it still doesn’t make any sense!!!
I am deeply sorry if you got insulted, but you bragged too much about your comment and it really never lived up to expectations. Yeah, I am disappointed!!! I really expected something good from you ,but I got nothing.:(:(:(:(:(:(

However, this isn’t the end of the world.You can try again. I advise you to read my posts really carefully and analyze everything. Next time instead of chasing after my words , bring facts and evidences from Manga/Anime why Tobi can’t be Obito and prove me by giving reasonable arguments. If you continue criticizing me and my words the way you did ,
I WON’T REPLY YOU ANYMORE , BECAUSE THERE IS NO POINT IN ARGUING WITH YOU IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING !!!!!!!!

Uchiha_Avenger

Stop wasting your time on theses fools, you strongly agree that Tobi is Obito so do you, if they can’t comprehend what your saying then that’s their problem, if they don’t show proof/facts of what their saying ignore them don’t stress yourself out. Just trying to give you some advice. Stay up!
- TobiIsObito
  
  I think you are right, but I don’t want to be accused of ignoring responses.
  - Uchiha_Avenger
    
    When they ask you why do you ignore my comments when i respond to you. Just say you don’t interest me at the moment(Itachi to sasuke). Lmao
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ZJSCZJBTCW2QVTOZJMCHFPKUPY LayliG

You say that his argument was not supported by facts, but is yours?
- TobiIsObito
  
  Yes, dude it is!!!
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    Here we go with the trashtalk and sarcasm I see.
    OK, I will simply say this straight forward: U ASSUME everything in favour of Obito. Let’s see:
    
    About Izuna’s eyes: would u believe A: Tobi’s story to Sasuke (who said that he DID NOT attack Konoha with the 9-tails, which is a LIE)+he is the main villain? or B: Itachi’s story to Sasuke
    To U, it’s more likely to believe the main villian who already lied once in that story?
    Btw: I don’t think Izuna is Tobi. I simply liked Akastuki’s comments/arguments better than urs(because they made more sense).
    Here U ASSUME Tobi(the main villain) is talking truth- It is NOT a FACT (It hasn’t been proved yet)
    
    That friendship(and sacrifices) is the main idea of Naruto, i agree. But then again, there are so many other parts of Naruto(as in the whole series) that u see the same things go over and over again. Ex:
    Yahiko and Nagato/Konan- All Yahiko/Nagato wanted was to protect their friends. -Yahiko sacrificed hifs own life to try and save Nagato-Konan.
    Neji’s father: Took his own life to save his brother’s (litteraly)
    Itachi sacrifised his entire clan to protect Konoha+Sasuke
    And I’ll add ur fav.:Obito sacrifised himself for Rin+Kakashi
    
    So u see, there is a pattern here, and I AGREE that Obito is connected to the main idea of Naruto- I just don’t agree that he is so much more important than these others i mentioned.
    So here U ASSUME he is extremely important- It is NOT a FACT.
    
    “Dude, I have news for you. It was confirmed in the Manga that Madara took Izuna’s eyes (both of them)…”
    U see what u just said? “Took”. Get it?
    
    Ok, to the most obvious to least obvious stuff: Can u PROVE that showing us the 2nd eye was to make Obito as less obvious as possible? Can u PROVE that it was a bluff from Kishi to fool us and don’t think Tobi to be Obito?
    If u could prove that, then the Tobi mystery should be solved already. So:
    U ASSUME he showed the 2nd sharingan to hide Obito’s identity.
    U ASSUME he put shadows on that image to hide his “clean face”.
    
    Let’s sum it up:
    U ASSUME Tobi said the truth
    U ASSUME Obito is extremely important
    U ASSUME Obito’s right eye wasn’t crushed
    U ASSUME he survived
    U ASSUME why he would turn into a villain
    Basically, u’re theory is based on:
    IF Obito survived
    How could Obito survive?
    Why did Obito become evil?
    How did he become THAT powerful?
    Why do Obito want to become the Jinch. of 10-tails+moon eye plan? (What are Obito’s motives?)
    How did Obito know about Nagato?
    
    Can u PROVE this? BY FACTS- FACTS FACTS? Ur theory is based on: ASSUMPTIONS, “Hows”, “Whys” and IF.
    (Fact)
    
    80% of ur response was to talk crap about me, impressive staying OFF the topic for so much. Again, u take things too personal, and go in defense-mode by talking shit about others and their opinions. (btw- fact)
    
    Yes, i did call u arrogant (u still are). When I said that u ignored my reply, I said NOTHING wrong. U DID avoid it several times. -fact
- TobiIsObito
  
  If my theory wasn’t supported by facts, then everybody could have ruined it.
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    “2 episodes were enough for all of us to remember Obito forever. Ask
    whoever you want, everyone considers 119-120 eps as one of the best in
    Shippuden.”
    
    So, if I ask everyone, they will all agree that 119-120eps are one of the fav.? Is that a fact? (no)
    Let’s do a poll at next chapter. If EVERYONE agrees with ur statement, ok, u can use it as “fact” if u want.
    If they DON’T, then it’s just another assumptions of yours.
    
    Sounds fair doesn’t it?
  - TobiIsObito
    
    Yes dude, the most people love that episodes and this A FACT!!! (Go to 119-120 episode and read comments if you need proof)
  - i_BaTisTa_i
    
    ”..EVERYONE considers 119-120 eps as one of the best in Shippuden”. I feel confident that there are many more who consider Itachi vs Sasuke, Pain vs Jiraya/Konoha/Naruto, Sasuke@kage summit, Sasuke vs Danzo, Sasuke vs Deidara and the season with Kakuzu+Hidan better than Kakashi gaiden. That u read some comments in 119/120 where some say they “love” that episode doesn’t prove ur point. U use strong words, so u should make sure u can back’em up.

Kin Uriha

I feel a lot of negative energy here.

Uchiha_Avenger

You SHOULD
- Shisui-tobirama
  
  his right arm fell off when fighting Minato. His right arm is pulled off by him when fighting Danzos bodygaurds. His left arm is blown off when fighting konan. But when Tobi fights the 4th hokage his arms are not covered up like they are every other time. all the other times Tobis arms are covered in black sleeves where in the fight with the 4th and now with Naruto his arms are normal and not covered up. But I found the answer to that too. If everyone would look at Tobi and Zetsu. they have opposite sides of each other. During the fight with the 4th his arm melts away and it is his white side. during the konan fight his black side gets blown away. and the shadows over his face when they show the other sharringan are to cover his black side of this face. That also is why Tobi has 2 personalities like Zetsu. Zetsu is mostly the senju 1st hokages DNA clone where as Tobis mostly Madara or uchiha DNA. thats also why Tobi has Sharringan. Zetsu was a senju clone and Tobi was a uchiha body or clone they split up into 2 sets with each haveing a main side of uchiha or senju. thats why Tobi said Nagato was the 3rd of the six paths. Zetsu was the first try to combine the 2 clans into one body. Tobi was the next but unlike Zetsu he had sharringan. Nagato was the 3rd. Senju desendent with uchiha eyes to awaken rennigan. Madara only had Zetsu cells when he died but orochimaru gave him senju cells after death and thats why kabuto said he was better than he was. and also why Madara said he wanted to try the wood style because he didnt know if it would work. Madara was wrapped up to cover the Zetsu like traits like kabuto has snake like traits. Madara was a uchiha with Zetsu cells. and Tobi is a Zetsu with Madaras cells and traits with sharringan (or Obitos body combined with Zetsu cells) We know Tobi is half Zetsu because after his fight with Danzos body gaurds they show Tobi standing over a Zetsu plant replaceing his arm when Zetsu come to get him about Kakashi fighting Sasuke. And he looks young there. I still think Tobi is either Obito or Shisui uchiha. Madara could have used either of their body. Sasuke said the tablet showed that you needed MS to control the fox which Itachi said was true. The only one who had the MS at that time was Shisui and Madara uchiha. Shisui would have done anything for the clan and he was known as Shisui the teleporter. And his body never found. Shisui told Itachi that hideing in the shadows and working from them is a true shinobi which is what Tobi does best. He was from the Leaf. Danzo and Itachi both had his eyes so someone helped him. But the Tobi that fought the 4th already had Zetsu cells. Shisui also was never found and Itachi helped him dissappear and fade away. Also Obitos body was never found but who know which it is? I still say that it is someone from the story. they always bring up main charaters through out the series. They have been talking about Shisui from the very begining when they blamed Itachi for his death. They show danzo useing his eye. They bring him up several time. I think they used Obito to help hide Shisui so it he didnt stand out so much. They needed to show how kakashi got his eye and the same time throw everyone off Shisui which is the strongest charater for Tobi. plus they have only brought obito up one time in a flash back. And nobody in the series has ever changed their hair or how they look. sakura cut her hair but thats it. Its a fact that you must have MS to control the fox demon or to summon him you need a contract which Madara had. Shisui is the only one with MS at that time and Madara. if Tobi was a Zetsu and Madara made ninja then his blood and chakara would be the same to summon him and Shisui was the best genjutsu user ever. Who better to come up with a plan useing a genjutsu than the best of the best genjutsu user of all. Everything points to Tobi being a Zetsu and Madara clone or Shisui uchiha. Plus the reason could be that they never found Obitos or Shisuis bodies because Tobi or Madara have been collecting them for their eyes and abilities. Look at how many eyes they have. they even took Danzos body just for one eye. Zetsu collects and cleans up every body they use. Madara wanted the 1st hokages DNA and abilities for one main thing. To use his abilities to create the wood clones and his DNA to live longer. He needed someone to continue his plan while he was dead and to revive him later on. Tobi would have been a DNA clone of Madara and Zetsu is a DNA clone of the 1st hokage. they plit up and swap half . Now Zetsu has 3/4 senju DNA and 1/4 uchiha and Tobi is 3/4 Madara DNA with 1/4 Snju DNA or Zetsu DNA. Thats why Zetsu uses mostly the same abilities of the 1st hokage and thats why Tobi uses mostly the uchiha abilities.

Llimitmarhiza

ahh…. i feel so emotional..remer=mbering that…

Christopher

Anyone notice that the episodes are less detailed than they use to be. they are cheaper looking and half computer animatied. I liked it better in the older ones when everything looked the same. even the charaters faces and stuff are all uneven and shit. anyone else see what Im talking about.

TobiIsObito

I agree with you, everything got worse including the opening.
Uchiha_Avenger

Agree i was like wtf… they must be getting lazy.

Scott

his right arm fell off when fighting Minato. His right arm is pulled off by him when fighting Danzos bodygaurds. His left arm is blown off when fighting konan. But when Tobi fights the 4th hokage his arms are not covered up like they are every other time. all the other times Tobis arms are covered in black sleeves where in the fight with the 4th and now with Naruto his arms are normal and not covered up. But I found the answer to that too. If everyone would look at Tobi and Zetsu. they have opposite sides of each other. During the fight with the 4th his arm melts away and it is his white side. during the konan fight his black side gets blown away. and the shadows over his face when they show the other sharringan are to cover his black side of this face. That also is why Tobi has 2 personalities like Zetsu. Zetsu is mostly the senju 1st hokages DNA clone where as Tobis mostly Madara or uchiha DNA. thats also why Tobi has Sharringan. Zetsu was a senju clone and Tobi was a uchiha body or clone they split up into 2 sets with each haveing a main side of uchiha or senju. thats why Tobi said Nagato was the 3rd of the six paths. Zetsu was the first try to combine the 2 clans into one body. Tobi was the next but unlike Zetsu he had sharringan. Nagato was the 3rd. Senju desendent with uchiha eyes to awaken rennigan. Madara only had Zetsu cells when he died but orochimaru gave him senju cells after death and thats why kabuto said he was better than he was. and also why Madara said he wanted to try the wood style because he didnt know if it would work. Madara was wrapped up to cover the Zetsu like traits like kabuto has snake like traits. Madara was a uchiha with Zetsu cells. and Tobi is a Zetsu with Madaras cells and traits with sharringan (or Obitos body combined with Zetsu cells) We know Tobi is half Zetsu because after his fight with Danzos body gaurds they show Tobi standing over a Zetsu plant replaceing his arm when Zetsu come to get him about Kakashi fighting Sasuke. And he looks young there. I still think Tobi is either Obito or Shisui uchiha. Madara could have used either of their body. Sasuke said the tablet showed that you needed MS to control the fox which Itachi said was true. The only one who had the MS at that time was Shisui and Madara uchiha. Shisui would have done anything for the clan and he was known as Shisui the teleporter. And his body never found. Shisui told Itachi that hideing in the shadows and working from them is a true shinobi which is what Tobi does best. He was from the Leaf. Danzo and Itachi both had his eyes so someone helped him. But the Tobi that fought the 4th already had Zetsu cells. Shisui also was never found and Itachi helped him dissappear and fade away. Also Obitos body was never found but who know which it is? I still say that it is someone from the story. they always bring up main charaters through out the series. They have been talking about Shisui from the very begining when they blamed Itachi for his death. They show danzo useing his eye. They bring him up several time. I think they used Obito to help hide Shisui so it he didnt stand out so much. They needed to show how kakashi got his eye and the same time throw everyone off Shisui which is the strongest charater for Tobi. And nobody in the series has ever changed their hair or how they look. sakura cut her hair but thats it. Its a fact that you must have MS to control the fox demon or to summon him you need a contract which Madara had. Shisui is the only one with MS at that time and Madara. if Tobi was a Zetsu and Madara made ninja then his blood and chakara would be the same to summon him and Shisui was the best genjutsu user ever. Who better to come up with a plan useing a genjutsu than the best of the best genjutsu user of all. Everything points to Tobi being a Zetsu and Madara clone or Shisui uchiha. Plus the reason could be that they never found Obitos or Shisuis bodies because Tobi or Madara have been collecting them for their eyes and abilities. Look at how many eyes they have. they even took Danzos body just for one eye. Zetsu collects and cleans up every body they use. Madara wanted the 1st hokages DNA and abilities for one main thing. To use his abilities to create the wood clones and his DNA to live longer. He needed someone to continue his plan while he was dead and to revive him later on. Tobi would have been a DNA clone of Madara and Zetsu is a DNA clone of the 1st hokage. they plit up and swap half . Now Zetsu has 3/4 senju DNA and 1/4 uchiha and Tobi is 3/4 Madara DNA with 1/4 Snju DNA or Zetsu DNA. Thats why Zetsu uses mostly the same abilities of the 1st hokage and thats why Tobi uses mostly the uchiha abilities.

Christopher

Anyone ever notice how they block your post if its a really good idea.

TobiIsObito

No they don’t . Maybe your post contained some words that are blocked here.
- gound
  
  i treied it a ton of times, even if it was a friendly comment that siad i agreed with a person, it is kinda weird and anoying
  - traspire
    
    There are certain words that can put your comment under moderation, but we get all the good comments approved within a few hours at most.
  - gound
    
    not always, i made one some time ago that said “way to go dude XD i agree with you ” that one didnt get aproved, so i changed it to “i agree XD”

Christopher

Shisui Is known as the Teleporter. who better to use a genjutsu over the world than the best ever. plus the tablet says you need MS to control the fox which Shisui and Madara are the only ones with it at that time. Shisui would do anything for the clan. Shisui was helped to awaken his MS by Madara. He also told itachi that a true shinobi works from the shadows and has no name which Tobi does very well. Or Madara made Zetsu from 1st hokages DNA and made Tobi from his own DNA. and took part of both and gave it to the other. Tobi is 3/4 uchiha and 1/4 Zetsu. Zetsu is 3/4 Zetsu or senju DNA and 1/4 Madara cells. thats why Zetsu uses mostly the same abilities as the 1st hokage and why Tobi uses mostly the same abilities as Madara.

Christopher

Thats why they cover his face with shadows when he breaks his mask to see the other eye because its black. When he fights the 4th his white arm melts off and its white. when he figts danzos dogs its the same. after that they show him standing over a zetsu plant and replaceing his arm. konan takes his other arm. Tobi is part Zetsu and Zetsu is part Tobi. I believe Tobi is Shisui uchiha which Itachi helped to disappear and fade away. he had MS to control the fox. could teleport. also a uchiha who would do anything for the sake of the clan. Shisu was never found just like obito but we already know Madara collected uchiha eyes and Zetsu took the bodies just like they did with Danzo. Thats also why Tobi never came out of the shadows until Itachi was dead. He was close to Itachi and could tell right then that Itachi and Sasuke would both awaken the MS and they could have the next set of EMS
- Christopher
  
  Why won’t they let me post my theory. THey let me post anything but if I put it up there they stop it everytime. Tobi is Shisui uchiha with Zetsu cells just like Madara was. Zetsu is copy of the 1st hokages cells. White side could be yin and the other is yang chakara but I say its half uchiha and half senju. Shisui had MS to control the fox and Also friends with itachi and saw the truth about him an sasuke, the next set of EMS. Danzo and Itachi got his eyes but Itachi couldnt kill his best friend so he let him live but he must never be seen again. and Itachi and Danzo took his eyes so he couldnt control the fox again. Madara helped him. the man kisame saw was shisui who could control anyone with his eyes. that was before danzo took his eye. Madara helped shisui awaken his eyes and to get the fox demon. Later Itachi found out. Thats also why Tobi never showed himself until Itachi was dead and why he was so hung on sasuke because he knew from the begining that sasuke would come to kill itachi and itachi would let him. Madara left Shisui(tobi) to finish collecting the demons and Zetsu as help. Tobi took gave nagato the rennigan after Madara died and he either keep one eye and used the other to give nagato 2 rennigan. we saw that they can make several of them and give all six paths 2 eyes so its easily done or he gave Nagato both of madara eyes and he got obitos other eye that they found or madara had kept. Tobi is Shisuis body, obitos eye, and zetsu all together or its not obitos eye but one of madaras EMS. either way Shisui is tobis body if not mind and body. they just used obito to show where kakashi got his eye from and to cover up and make everyone forget about shisui. everything points to shisui. even his name teleporter and he is a strong genjutsu user and their whole plan is based on a genjutsu. they never found his body because itachi helped him disappear. he said he worked from the shadows without a name which means to be a great shinobi. so he told itachi. he never come out of the shadows until itachi died. He had the 4th mizukage under a genjutsu. he had MS to control the fox demon when naruto was born. he is from the leaf and knew the 4th hokage. no one else ever saw him and the 4th fight so they couldnt tell anyone about his techniques or anything. his haircut is the same as shisui. loved his clan. Obito was only talked about 1 time where shisui has been talked about from the very begining when they asked itachi about killing him.
  - TobiIsObito
    
    . A theory about Tobi’s identity without mentioning Obito, Izuna, Kagami… I like it Keep it up !
  - Gulji5
    
    Shisui would have been itachis age when Tobi attacked so it’s likely not him.

Kim

Which mask would you rather be revealed first?

Tobi’s Mask

Or

Kakashi’s Mask

TobiIsObito

Kakashi’s of course !!! (I know who is behind Tobi’s mask :D:D)
- Madara_and_Hashirama
  
  obviously its obito
- gound
  
  why? it is just kakashi that is under kakashi’s mask XD so you think you already know both, but i really think it could be cool if they lost their masks on the same time in this fight naruto have with tobi XD (never gona happen but could be cool XD)
gound

both on the same time
Madara_and_Hashirama

Kakuzu’s Mask
- Jiraiya
  
  It has been revealed…
Uchiha_Avenger

Tobi’s

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